"whiny people" "made-up disease" "modern hysteria" "psychosomatic" "deconditioning" "convinced yourself you are sick" "sick benefit parasites" "weak" "soft" "lazy" "unwilling to push themselves" "just depressed" "coddled" "result of youth trauma" "made up" "tiktok trendy" "fat"
November 12, 2025 at 10:51 AM
"whiny people" "made-up disease" "modern hysteria" "psychosomatic" "deconditioning" "convinced yourself you are sick" "sick benefit parasites" "weak" "soft" "lazy" "unwilling to push themselves" "just depressed" "coddled" "result of youth trauma" "made up" "tiktok trendy" "fat"
i know this is a very touchy subject but i stayed in bed for way longer than i should have because i thought i had ME (which is the default form of LC everyone assumes) but i don't and now it's hard for me to, like, lift simple things and walk more than a mile from deconditioning and i'm very upset
November 6, 2025 at 4:22 PM
i know this is a very touchy subject but i stayed in bed for way longer than i should have because i thought i had ME (which is the default form of LC everyone assumes) but i don't and now it's hard for me to, like, lift simple things and walk more than a mile from deconditioning and i'm very upset
not really wild I guess, just deconditioning living under slumlords for like 14 years
October 27, 2025 at 1:40 PM
not really wild I guess, just deconditioning living under slumlords for like 14 years
Hahahaha ‚altered effort preference‘! My ‚effort preference‘ is the same as it‘s always been, and as soon as I feel ok’ish and ‚forget‘ that I‘ve got #LongCovid, it kicks me in the teeth because I overdo it, yet again. Activity avoidance is NECESSARY and the subsequent deconditioning is maddening.
A commentary from a group of researchers, including Todd Davenport, has challenged conclusions drawn in a paper by Brian Walitt and colleagues.
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
October 27, 2025 at 5:41 AM
Hahahaha ‚altered effort preference‘! My ‚effort preference‘ is the same as it‘s always been, and as soon as I feel ok’ish and ‚forget‘ that I‘ve got #LongCovid, it kicks me in the teeth because I overdo it, yet again. Activity avoidance is NECESSARY and the subsequent deconditioning is maddening.
A commentary from a group of researchers, including Todd Davenport, has challenged conclusions drawn in a paper by Brian Walitt and colleagues.
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
October 26, 2025 at 4:25 PM
A commentary from a group of researchers, including Todd Davenport, has challenged conclusions drawn in a paper by Brian Walitt and colleagues.
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
Read more: bit.ly/4qsfhKA
Read ME Research UK's write up of Walitt's study: bit.ly/4hnrFXP
#mecfs #pwme #cfs
Although my medical file is 8 miles wide and filed with wonderful experts, the cardiologist I saw today said my heart was fine and wonders if my symptoms weren't just due to "deconditioning".
October 22, 2025 at 11:07 PM
Although my medical file is 8 miles wide and filed with wonderful experts, the cardiologist I saw today said my heart was fine and wonders if my symptoms weren't just due to "deconditioning".
For future reference, deconditioning has a very specific meaning, it has to do with oxygen use & uptake, it can be measured, there are tests, and it‘s not just a random synonym for “lazy”.
When they say that, your response is, “ok, orders for stress echocardiography & cardiopulmonary exercise tests”
When they say that, your response is, “ok, orders for stress echocardiography & cardiopulmonary exercise tests”
Discriminating Circulatory Problems From Deconditioning
Discriminating circulatory problems with reduced stroke volume (SV) from deconditioning,
in which the muscles cannot consume oxygen normally, by gas exchange parameters is
difficult.
journal.chestnet.org
October 22, 2025 at 11:18 PM
For future reference, deconditioning has a very specific meaning, it has to do with oxygen use & uptake, it can be measured, there are tests, and it‘s not just a random synonym for “lazy”.
When they say that, your response is, “ok, orders for stress echocardiography & cardiopulmonary exercise tests”
When they say that, your response is, “ok, orders for stress echocardiography & cardiopulmonary exercise tests”
💊 A clinical trial for Colchicine did not find the drug effective for Long COVID
🇮🇳 PLRC white paper: Long COVID disproportionately affects India’s productive-age population
🧐 Researchers critiqued controversial 2024 study on myalgic encephalomyelitis
#LongCOVID research updates: bit.ly/47nXfQS
🇮🇳 PLRC white paper: Long COVID disproportionately affects India’s productive-age population
🧐 Researchers critiqued controversial 2024 study on myalgic encephalomyelitis
#LongCOVID research updates: bit.ly/47nXfQS
![Researchers recently critiqued the study design and conclusions of a controversial 2024 study on myalgic encephalomyelitis (ME), which asserted that the disease was a result of altered “effort preference” and deconditioning. They wrote in a response in Nature Communications, “this interpretation risks reinforcing skepticism about the serious biological nature of [ME] and its hallmark of post-exertional malaise (PEM), as well as its potential misclassification as a mental health condition.” The authors of the letter also critiqued the study’s small sample size, outcome measures, analyses, and more aspects of its design. We reported on the study’s errors and potential bias in 2024, and published commentary from a community member calling for its retraction.](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:age5xvis2s2vy5qiz2tjxoc6/bafkreieeurdz4k7tazocbp35xityvq56tocd5pqwfuetbhwvexcgwbj3oa@jpeg)
October 23, 2025 at 2:58 PM
💊 A clinical trial for Colchicine did not find the drug effective for Long COVID
🇮🇳 PLRC white paper: Long COVID disproportionately affects India’s productive-age population
🧐 Researchers critiqued controversial 2024 study on myalgic encephalomyelitis
#LongCOVID research updates: bit.ly/47nXfQS
🇮🇳 PLRC white paper: Long COVID disproportionately affects India’s productive-age population
🧐 Researchers critiqued controversial 2024 study on myalgic encephalomyelitis
#LongCOVID research updates: bit.ly/47nXfQS
Apparently the letter exposing the faults of the NIH study about "effort preference" hit a nerve. Here is the response.
Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome | Nature Communications share.google/18JL0YaJqgK7...
Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome | Nature Communications share.google/18JL0YaJqgK7...
Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome - Nature Communications
Nature Communications - Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome
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October 20, 2025 at 2:46 PM
Apparently the letter exposing the faults of the NIH study about "effort preference" hit a nerve. Here is the response.
Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome | Nature Communications share.google/18JL0YaJqgK7...
Reply to: Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome | Nature Communications share.google/18JL0YaJqgK7...
Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome. #myalgicencephalomyelitis #myalgice #mecfs
www.nature.com/articles/s41...
www.nature.com/articles/s41...
Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome - Nature Communications
Nature Communications - Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome
www.nature.com
October 18, 2025 at 2:23 PM
Altered effort and deconditioning are not valid explanations of myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome. #myalgicencephalomyelitis #myalgice #mecfs
www.nature.com/articles/s41...
www.nature.com/articles/s41...
2) The letter challenges the conclusion that ME/CFS is a "disorder defined by altered effort preference, leading to activity avoidance and subsequent deconditioning. We believe this interpretation risks reinforcing skepticism about the serious biological nature of ME/CFS."
October 17, 2025 at 3:10 PM
2) The letter challenges the conclusion that ME/CFS is a "disorder defined by altered effort preference, leading to activity avoidance and subsequent deconditioning. We believe this interpretation risks reinforcing skepticism about the serious biological nature of ME/CFS."
These findings suggest that rehabilitation for severe LC patients should move beyond simple deconditioning theory and consider targeted, specific strategies.
October 8, 2025 at 7:26 AM
These findings suggest that rehabilitation for severe LC patients should move beyond simple deconditioning theory and consider targeted, specific strategies.
Years and years of people driven to despair and in some cases tragically beyond by being told that they could talk and think themselves well, and that their weakness was just deconditioning that they could beat if they were willing to push themselves hard enough.
October 6, 2025 at 5:58 PM
Years and years of people driven to despair and in some cases tragically beyond by being told that they could talk and think themselves well, and that their weakness was just deconditioning that they could beat if they were willing to push themselves hard enough.
deconditioning”. In the article, the team elaborate by explaining that exercise intolerance can also be seen in highly trained individuals who develop long COVID or ME/CFS.
September 30, 2025 at 11:10 PM
deconditioning”. In the article, the team elaborate by explaining that exercise intolerance can also be seen in highly trained individuals who develop long COVID or ME/CFS.
I got to the point where I only had severe pain with certain rotation movements though I still have a ton of muscle & joint fatigue. deconditioning maybe? But I also started getting cervicogenic dizziness & wondered if that's related. But no Dr cared really because specialties don't mix. 2/x
September 25, 2025 at 1:13 AM
I got to the point where I only had severe pain with certain rotation movements though I still have a ton of muscle & joint fatigue. deconditioning maybe? But I also started getting cervicogenic dizziness & wondered if that's related. But no Dr cared really because specialties don't mix. 2/x
Day 5 no alcohol update.
I'm unsure which particular flavour of fatigue is kicking my ass today between Fibromyalgia plus whiplash plus deconditioning plus the little known "Sobriety Fatigue" many people experience after they stop drinking an absurd amount on a daily basis.
Did a 10 min walk anyway.
I'm unsure which particular flavour of fatigue is kicking my ass today between Fibromyalgia plus whiplash plus deconditioning plus the little known "Sobriety Fatigue" many people experience after they stop drinking an absurd amount on a daily basis.
Did a 10 min walk anyway.
September 17, 2025 at 1:50 PM
Day 5 no alcohol update.
I'm unsure which particular flavour of fatigue is kicking my ass today between Fibromyalgia plus whiplash plus deconditioning plus the little known "Sobriety Fatigue" many people experience after they stop drinking an absurd amount on a daily basis.
Did a 10 min walk anyway.
I'm unsure which particular flavour of fatigue is kicking my ass today between Fibromyalgia plus whiplash plus deconditioning plus the little known "Sobriety Fatigue" many people experience after they stop drinking an absurd amount on a daily basis.
Did a 10 min walk anyway.
what resolved those difficulties was switching to a reclining pillow in bed instead of sitting up all the time but according to my doctor spending time in bed cause those difficulties by deconditioning my abdomen even though those difficulties are why I spend time in bed
January 15, 2025 at 8:03 PM
what resolved those difficulties was switching to a reclining pillow in bed instead of sitting up all the time but according to my doctor spending time in bed cause those difficulties by deconditioning my abdomen even though those difficulties are why I spend time in bed
This hesitance only seems to exist for chronic conditions. They'll give you a cast and crutches for an acute injury, but when it's chronic they wring their hands about deconditioning.
July 5, 2024 at 8:30 PM
This hesitance only seems to exist for chronic conditions. They'll give you a cast and crutches for an acute injury, but when it's chronic they wring their hands about deconditioning.
This got me thinking early on a Saturday. When discussing #deconditioning I’ve always assumed we’ve been clear about what the problem is but then you know what they say about assumption…this paper states the need for an agreed definition & criteria for diagnosing hospital-acquired deconditioning.
January 18, 2025 at 9:56 AM
This got me thinking early on a Saturday. When discussing #deconditioning I’ve always assumed we’ve been clear about what the problem is but then you know what they say about assumption…this paper states the need for an agreed definition & criteria for diagnosing hospital-acquired deconditioning.
Had a severe housefire in October which meant I had to pack up what had survived, find somewhere to live, set up a new house all with minimal help. The only thing that slowed me down was not having oxygen on demand to my right leg not deconditioning, although that's starting now bc of my leg not #LC
January 18, 2025 at 11:09 AM
Had a severe housefire in October which meant I had to pack up what had survived, find somewhere to live, set up a new house all with minimal help. The only thing that slowed me down was not having oxygen on demand to my right leg not deconditioning, although that's starting now bc of my leg not #LC
Compared with healthy controls, children with long COVID (LC) have objective impaired functional capacity as expressed by a low VO2 peak (oxygen uptake at peak of exercise) during exertion testing, signs of deconditioning, & cardiogenic inefficiency.
May 27, 2024 at 11:49 PM
Compared with healthy controls, children with long COVID (LC) have objective impaired functional capacity as expressed by a low VO2 peak (oxygen uptake at peak of exercise) during exertion testing, signs of deconditioning, & cardiogenic inefficiency.
Excellent new #mecfs paper by Mayo Clinic & #MEAction. Includes this brilliant graphic, which clearly shows that PEM is not just fatigue. Well done, Jaime! @exceedhergrasp1.bsky.social
www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S002...
www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S002...
October 5, 2023 at 8:49 PM
Excellent new #mecfs paper by Mayo Clinic & #MEAction. Includes this brilliant graphic, which clearly shows that PEM is not just fatigue. Well done, Jaime! @exceedhergrasp1.bsky.social
www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S002...
www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S002...
Den hypotese er afkræftet for længst:
“Graded exercise therapy (GET), a proposed treatment for ME/CFS that assumes deconditioning and a fear of activity play important roles in maintaining the illness, is no longer recommended for people with ME/CFS.[6][29]: 38”
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic...
“Graded exercise therapy (GET), a proposed treatment for ME/CFS that assumes deconditioning and a fear of activity play important roles in maintaining the illness, is no longer recommended for people with ME/CFS.[6][29]: 38”
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic...
Myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
February 1, 2025 at 7:39 PM
Den hypotese er afkræftet for længst:
“Graded exercise therapy (GET), a proposed treatment for ME/CFS that assumes deconditioning and a fear of activity play important roles in maintaining the illness, is no longer recommended for people with ME/CFS.[6][29]: 38”
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic...
“Graded exercise therapy (GET), a proposed treatment for ME/CFS that assumes deconditioning and a fear of activity play important roles in maintaining the illness, is no longer recommended for people with ME/CFS.[6][29]: 38”
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myalgic...
I am currently Deconditioning societys ick the more and more
May 12, 2024 at 12:37 AM
I am currently Deconditioning societys ick the more and more
Extended waiting times for #MSK treatments take a toll on patients’ physical and mental health. They lead to deconditioning, increased pain, decreased quality of life, and, in some cases, irreversible deterioration. Early intervention and support becomes more and more important.
May 16, 2025 at 6:01 AM
Extended waiting times for #MSK treatments take a toll on patients’ physical and mental health. They lead to deconditioning, increased pain, decreased quality of life, and, in some cases, irreversible deterioration. Early intervention and support becomes more and more important.