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This is sarcasm for those who are unfamiliar with me. Sad that needs to be said.
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Ok, you obviously haven't been seeing the tons of live footage from the protests & are unfamiliar with laws covering 1st Amendment protest activity. Blocking streets & driveways is illegal, even if morally right. Expect to be arrested if you do this.
apnews.com/article/immi...
Protesters arrested as demonstrators block vehicles at key immigration building near Chicago
Multiple people have been arrested after protesters tried to block vehicles at a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement site outside Chicago.
apnews.com
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I'm not framing "any opposition" as civil disobedience. Pritzker swore an oath to uphold the law. If he decides he's not enforcing them against anti-ICE protestors, he's undermined the legal argument for his case that National Guard deployments are unlawful.
www.cbsnews.com/news/nationa...
Appeals court temporarily blocks deployment of National Guard troops in Chicago
The Defense Department announced earlier this week that about 200 National Guard soldiers from Texas and another 300 from Illinois were federalized and sent to the Chicago area.
www.cbsnews.com
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There's a local right wing show on KSLM in Salem, OR called Noncompliant America. KSLM broadcasts Mark Levin, Sean Hannity, Charlie Kirk's show, etc. This week's show featured this "small gov't" guy saying "bring all of the troops home," right after saying "send the troops to here to Oregon!"
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NONCOMPLIANT AMERICAS
October 11 • Ep 129 • 45 min
Laura Loomer LOOMERED herself - Trump takes Covid Booster? - Bolton next on the chopping block - and more candace updates Laura Loomer LOOMERED herself - Tr...
October 11 • Ep 129 • 45 min
Makes you wonder. And so we don't want wars. We want to pull out of everything.
I think all the troops should come home to the United States, maybe leave a couple behind elsewhere. But we don't need to be involved fighting for other countries like Ukraine either. We don't need to be defending them.
We don't need to be there. I say we pull out completely, and let's get out of these wars, and let's save some money. Let's be fiscally responsible.
Let's pay for the taxes that are supposed to be used on the American people, and stop giving it to all these NGOs that are thwarting and undermining Western civilization all over the world. Let's start focusing on the people, not other countries. That's what we need to do.
NONCOMPLIANT AMERICA Laura Loomer LOOMERED herself - Tr...
October 11 • Ep 129 • 45 min
Well, it really is a war zone in the sense that you look at the lawfare that's happening between the judges and the governor that's vowing to fight Trump in every way. And he's not violating his constitutional right. He's protecting federal buildings.
He's not sending in the National Guard to take over the city, which I personally believe he should. And it may or may not happen because Portland is an Antifa stronghold. There's a guy, there's a video I posted on my ex earlier this week.
NONCOMPLIANT AMERICA
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Those call in shows recreate the experience of drinking at the Nazi bar.
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Will is sort of making a good point that the media created a narrative that blamed Biden for 2020 & helped Trump, but in the most Will way possible.
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Biden won in 2020 because people wanted a "return to normal" & they got mad when the pandemic didn't instantly go away & inflationary supply chain problems weren't reversed. Essentially they wanted to get back to 2019 & pretend we weren't still dealing with the effects of a global health crisis.
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Most of the arrests have been groups trying to block the driveway to the ICE facility, but there have been several occasions where groups split off & occupied the streets. The image below is when a group got to the Eisenhower ramps @ 25th St. last Saturday. ISP got them to turn around & go back.
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And again, no one is defending that, but you accused Ellie of sophistry for pointing out this fact.
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Going back to the original point, higher doctor pay & hospital costs are bigger factors in why US healthcare is almost 2x as expensive as Swiss or German healthcare than insurance overhead. Those groups like multi-payer because they can negotiate with more strength than under single payer.
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You missed the point again. Australia's national poverty rate is ~ 13%. Among the indigenous population it's 30%. Unsurprisingly, their life expectancy is much lower, even lower than that of Black Americans. UHC doesn't equalize all outcomes.
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I'll add idk who the people in the quoted video above are, but they aren't the priests. That account is heavily biased towards amplifying leftist protestors who show up for any & every protest.
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We can absolutely use that framework ourselves & this is a great example of Catholics doing it.
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I realized a while ago that the anti-choice & anti-LGBTQ movements we identify as "evangelical" rely on Catholic thinkers to construct a coherent framework. The Church has been making rules & constructing logical arguments to defend them longer than any institution in the western world.
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When the leaders of that type of action are easily depicted as "professional agitators", you aren't going to convince normies they should get an exception.
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This is the Rabbi Ben in question. He led a group away from the ICE facility to try to block the exit ramps from the 290 Expressway, presumably because it would be used by ICE vehicles coming from the city.

I'll let more knowledgable folks debate when civil disobedience is protected speech.
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It works better when the law being broken are directly tied to the protest. Black people illegally sitting at segregated lunch counters was direct. Protestors blocking an expressway exit used by a lot of people besides ICE is muddy.
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That's fair! What isn't fair is Bunch reducing it to Pritzker "backing police fascism".

Part of the power of civil disobedience lies in the belief that accepting the consequences is a moral imperative that exposes the immorality of what's being protested.
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This is correct, but the instruction is it should only be done out of necessity. In this case, it seems the mass & consecration of the Host occurred at a nearby church. Giving communion to people who can't receive it in church is standard Catholic practice.

www.vatican.va/archive/cod-...
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To be clear, religious leaders were not doing the denying.
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That depends on the Trump administration also taking that path. I'm not super-optimistic they will, but do think the optics of protestors throwing objects & blocking streets works against us in the avoidance of invoking Insurrection & the public opinion of it's justification.
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A Congressional candidate who promised not to be like all the "establishment" candidates who constantly bug you about donations.
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Imagine how insane this site would get if Hakeem Jeffries posted this.
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@jbpritzker.bsky.social understands this. He's peeling off Republican Governors who understand the precedent Abbott is setting can come back against them.
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