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Researcher researching research (and software engineering). Observing observability. Co-imagining more expansive futures. More at threlk.net (🚧 under construction 🚧) 🔗 https://ln.ht/~threlk/linkinbio
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lol well… that remains to be seen. I’m hopefully going to have some HOA dispatched plumbers out soon to open the ceiling and there’s no telling what we’ll find up there 🙃
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goddammit reading this back I’m realizing the _how_

it’s flowing along the main load bearing beam/joist
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yes somehow water from my upstairs neighbor’s shower is flowing across two bedrooms and down the wall in my en suite bathroom lol
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[a few moments later]

“is wario a democratic confederalist or libertarian municipalist? a marxist perspective” — the greatest thread in the history of forums, locked by a moderator after 12,239 pages of heated debate
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libertarian municipalism has entered the chat
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libertarian municipalism has entered the chat
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as an “incidents in complex systems” appreciator, I’m fascinated by the puzzle of how water is getting from one area where water sorta belongs and into another area where water sorta belongs via an area where water should absolutely never be

as a homeowner, I’m down a bathroom and have so much mold
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anyway, last week we thought we’d finally figured it out (something simple the first plumbers should have checked)

plot twist: somehow the water in my en suite bath is actually coming from the upstairs neighbors’ _hall_ bath

yes: same floor plan
no: hall and en suite baths don’t share a stack
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anyway, last week we thought we’d finally figured it out (something simple the first plumbers should have checked)

plot twist: somehow the water in my en suite bath is actually coming from the upstairs neighbors’ _hall_ bath

yes: same floor plan
no: hall and en suite baths don’t share a stack
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oh right I posted this and then the site crashed (unrelated I’m sure)
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quick update on this it’s still completely fucked lol
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well at least this time it was actively dripping when the professionals were here
It’s an awkward shot of a bathroom that has been torn to fuck. There’s building materials leaning against a wall, studs out, exposed pipes, the tub is missing — the whole “it’s a renovation” deal

there is water dripping along the edge corner of some exposed and freshly installed tile backer board, making a large puddle on the currently untiled subfloor
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i have a reading rec that’s top of mind (if perhaps related in a way that might not seem super obvious at first):

Information Activism, which has a lot of good stuff to say about the tied-togetherness of knowledge creation and community formation
Information Activism | Are.na
dukeupress.edu/information-activism
www.are.na
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something’s in the water (in my water it’s apparently typos but still)

but, to bridge these threads: I can almost hear this elastic thwapping/whooshing sound as the trustable perimeter contracts in and leaves facebook etc (and users of) on the outside — it’s imperative we work on fixing that
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on build on this, your point at the end, and the “alternative sources” point you made: when an area can support a population there is an alternative to collapse: you can go to other wells for your water. this is migration.

the responsibility, and the work, is helping people through that process
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I think it’s a responsibility of people who want to help other people make better sense of the world to lead the way in talking about how it is still possible and is going to remain possible to be able to make sense of the world, even if both the world and the ways we make sense of it are changing.
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Controversial take: I don’t think we have or will ever reach a point of having a post-trust/post-truth society. We just have shifting assemblages of which people and types of associations are trustworthy, and networks of inertia that will temporarily confuse people until we help them adjust.
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on build on this, your point at the end, and the “alternative sources” point you made: when an area can support a population there is an alternative to collapse: you can go to other wells for your water. this is migration.

the responsibility, and the work, is helping people through that process
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I think it’s a responsibility of people who want to help other people make better sense of the world to lead the way in talking about how it is still possible and is going to remain possible to be able to make sense of the world, even if both the world and the ways we make sense of it are changing.
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and so, unfortunately but maybe also optimistically, there’s not really “post trust society” so much as the contraction of society as it finds equilibrium with how far trust is extended. sort of like a population’s dependence on food and space and the collapse-rebound following a capacity overshoot
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I’m sure someone with stronger theoretical underpinnings has articulated this better than I’m about to here but I can’t help but agree because trust, of various kinds, seem to be is what “society” is predicated on/supported by
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yes, this is very related to what I’m responding to here
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now, I’m not sure an image of your younger self laughing as how cringe and old your current self is would be better lol, I just think there’s a level of “tell me things are okay” that feels, to me, almost desperate in an image of younger you hugging current you
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it’s a bit hard to elaborate a few hundred chars at a time, but i guess i see the image of your younger self hugging your older self as not leaving space for the idea that maybe your younger self had ambitions that pointed to a different future
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I think the idea of giving your younger self a hug carries some implicit craving for validation that you’ve ended up where you need to be, and doing that by creating a tangible image where you can “actually” see your younger self embracing your current self strengthens that imagined scenario
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it strikes me that so many of the advertised use cases for AI are premised on dodging areas where personal development might otherwise be called for, but “make up a version of yourself that approves of your choices” feels a bit on the nose even though that lense
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Something I've realized recently when talking to other people about this is that too often the only homeless people they're aware of are the ones engaging in problematic behavior, due to intoxication or mental illness or whatever. Homeless people are just people, and there are so many you never see.
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it’s also handy to have a bag ready to go when, say, a tornado hits your building and causes a gas leak that means you have to go stay in a hotel in the middle of the night and there’s no power so good luck grabbing clothes quickly in the dark, ask me how I know lol
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practice 2 (keeping the bags packed) is immensely helpful in profound crisis situations, like when you’re forgetful and have to pack for a trip, knowing that everything is already in there is nice.

or the mundane, like when waking up to a surprise powder day
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Practice 1 (the dumping of the bags™) is useful because, for example, I found that I had two toothpastes and three floss spools. I also noticed that I forgot to replenish the after-sting wipes in my first aid kit and that my headlamp developed a crack.