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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

You can't correct "parasitic nature," you can only destroy it. You don't frame states as fake, or at least as more fake than other states.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

They simply are colonial states. Aspersions of collective falsehood or parasitic nature are about trying to cast the *Israeli collective character* as evil and irreparably false. What's the end goal of that? If a people are Inherently Fake, what is there to do with them?

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

No. Israel is a post-colonial state resulting from sectarian violence. It's honestly not especially atypical in that character (and most of its population are either born there or related to refugees driven from the rest of the Middle East).

But even colonial states are not *intrinsically fake*.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

Go ahead and flounce out. You won't be missed.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

Israel has a sizable non-Jewish minority who have political parties and rights. You do not need to destroy the Israeli state to promote equality for them.

But in any case these memes are about casting aspersions of falsehood on the Israeli collective *character*, not state policy

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

Not even close to the worst humanitarian crisis in living memory. The Yemeni Civil War alone, or the Syrian Civil War, or frankly the Ukrainian war, all have significantly more casualties.

But yes, Israel are our coreligionists, and thus we retain ties to them - not collective blame, but ties.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

No.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

"I know some of the good ones, I can't be bigoted" is not the strong argument you think it is.

Ps: yeah and the Allies didn't say "Germany is inherently corrupt and fake," they said "the Nazi regime needs to be destroyed."

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

Conduct can be changed. People don't say "Israel should change its conduct," though, they say "Israel is fake and corrupt in its core nature, and that cannot be changed, only destroyed."

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

The problem people have is that they really want to get a hit of the bigotry juice and bask in the righteous surge of hateful energy it lends, but they're not willing to admit they're gutter bigots and ethnic nationalists calling entire demographics intrinsically fake and parasitic.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

If your problem with Israel is its actions, you're not necessarily antisemitic.

If your problem with Israel is its existence, its supposedly intrinsic falsehood and parasitism, you are absolutely antisemitic.

Maladroithe @maladroithe.bsky.social · 11h

I’m so frustrated that the people posting dumb memes mocking Israeli culture 99.9% of the time don’t actually know shit about Israeli culture or the overlap between Israeli culture and Jewish culture (there is no clean line! You can’t parse them easily! You are a toddler playing with matches!)

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

"fall for it" implies that they're not gleefully taking part in it

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Adam “Bluesky Says I’m Rude” Sessler 🇺🇦 @adamsessler.bsky.social · 11h

This underscores why the casual use of “Zionist” as an epithet was so concerning to me from the get go. It has a pernicious effect that goes by unnoticed until moments like this.

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craigk @craigk4.bsky.social · 11h

using the slurs invented and popularized by david duke, but leftishly

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

This is antisemitic bullshit.

The Serfs (youtube.com/theserfstv) @theserfstv.bsky.social · 1d

Israeli food: poutine. Israelis have developed and continue to enjoy a delicious cuisine rooted in the uniqueness of Israeli society itself

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

I'm saying that if a Jew says that people conflate antisemitism and antizionism, then it's pretty offensive arrogance to go "actually YOU are the antisemite for conflating Israel and Judaism!"

Israel contains around 40%ish of the world's Jews. They are inherently intertwined.

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Maladroithe @maladroithe.bsky.social · 11h

I’m so frustrated that the people posting dumb memes mocking Israeli culture 99.9% of the time don’t actually know shit about Israeli culture or the overlap between Israeli culture and Jewish culture (there is no clean line! You can’t parse them easily! You are a toddler playing with matches!)

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 10h

You know telling an actual Jew that you know more about antisemitism than they do is some supreme arrogance.

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Joel S. @joelhs.bsky.social · 11h

I broadly agree, but also think this is too generous to the leftists sharing the meme in question. They aren’t resharing a Nazi meme about Jews stealing food cultures because they’re being tricked; they’re sharing because a segment of the left agrees Jews are parasites without culture of their own.

Sam Brody @samuelhayimbrody.bsky.social · 11h

The reason Nazis make memes like this is to get leftist crossover and inspire others to make their own copies. People fall for it

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David Schraub @schraubd.bsky.social · 11h

“Fall for it” is generous. While I doubt many of the copycats know the Nazi origins, the fact is that along this axis they find Nazi perspectives vis-a-vis Jews appealing and basically agree with it.

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Doctor Charlton Cussans PhD @charltoncussans.bsky.social · 11h

They also here "Anti-Zionism *cannot* be antisemitism", which is insanely damaging too.

Joel S. @joelhs.bsky.social · 11h

Some people on here hear “Anti-Zionism is not antisemitism” and conclude, “All antisemitism is actually anti-Zionism.”

Maladroithe @maladroithe.bsky.social · 11h

Man it really sucks that people heard “Jews and Israelis aren’t synonymous” and interpreted that to mean “you can be as antisemitic as you want if you just say Israeli instead of Jewish”

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Isaac (from the Internet) Gantwerk Mayer @isaacgantwerkmayer.bsky.social · 13h

the joke here is: "the eternal degenerate Jew has no culture to call his own, he is but a parasite, what he has he steals and degenerates"

leftists sharing it are sharing nazi content. fuck you all strasserist fucks

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 13h

Gaza has suffered enough, it doesn't need a civil war too. Goddamnit.

Arieh Kovler @ariehkovler.com · 13h

Reports are conflicting but it seems that Hamas has gone to war with the Doghmush clan in Gaza City. Many reports of sieges, arrests/kidnappings and deaths on both sides. The Doghmush clan did NOT work with Israel; they're just a rival power in Gaza.

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A penitent who is loud @loudpenitent.bsky.social · 13h

God Thiel is so stupid.

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economymedicine.bsky.social @economymedicine.bsky.social · 14h

Tolkien would have loathed everything about Thiel and Thiel will never understand why.

☀️ Starshine @starshine.bsky.social · 15h

art lit criticism is my passion ass guy

Yes, Thiel said, perking up. "There are all
these ways where trying to live
unnaturally long goes haywire" in
Tolkien's works. But you also have the
elves. "And then there are sort of all these
questions, you know: How are the elves
different from the humans in Tolkien?
And they're basically
- I think the main
difference is just, they're humans that
don't die
"Why can't we be elves?" he said.

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