Just one further point: at one time I brought this issue to my students. Their response? Just fail them! I was the one pained by failing my students, not my students. Lol!The ones who do the work don't want their degree cheapened by other students' unearned grades.

Well, before I was tenured and when I was a graduate TA, I sought advice from senior faculty about how to address such situations and I do what they told me: when a student submits legitimately failing work, fail them. Provide feedback as to why. Their behavior will change. It mostly does.

1. I've read the original thread. 2. No idea what you do. 3. I don't understand how you view a comment that begins with the word "I" as a form of advice to you. How I behave in the situation you and the OP describe is not a form of advice to others. It's a description of my behavior. Take/leave IDC.

Lol. Well aware of the news and the repercussions! Lots of issues with that current case—on all sides.

But students who refuse to produce work (that's legit per syllabus, etc.) deserve to receive failing grades. Their behavior changes very quickly or they drop the course.

I just fail them. Behavior changes very quickly.

In the OU case, I probably would have asked the student to meet with me, explained why the assignment didn't meet assignment requirements, and offered a re-write opportunity, perhaps with a slight grade penalty. But that's harder to do with large classes at a state flagship uni.

If you do this, there needs to be careful links between course/assignment learning objectives, assignment directions, grading criteria, instructor grading/feedback. Cautionary advice against submitting diary entries for credit can also prevent a lot of issues, as can a course re-write policy.

I'm a teaching-centered uni and we have a voluntary peer review of teaching process. Most un-tenured (but TT) faculty participate in it. Can be very helpful.

This!⬆️

They may have put TA on admin leave to protect them from this national media storm. When you’re a vulnerable, young instructor, it can be hard to do your job when all this is hanging over your head. Leave is not necessarily punitive.

Agreed on first point. But a lot of tenured profs would write better assignments if they got some peer feedback at regular points post-tenure. Becoming closed to outside review isn’t healthy.

this is a good way to think about this exercise imo bsky.app/profile/scgr...

Of course, I also don’t think the OU student who wrote the shitty Bible essay was doing so in good faith. It’s a classic cancellation stunt and OU is ensuring that it will continue to be a profitable and popular grift that continues to threatens the entire education system

College students who can’t handle their strictest instructors need to grow up, which is part of what they’re there for. TPUSA and OU are ironically doing the triggered snowflake participation trophy shtick and harming everyone’s ability to grow up in the process

Shades of Phyllis Schlafly!

This is true of basically every trad wife you’ve heard of. They are not trad wives. They reap the benefits that feminism has won for them and then they grift off pretending to be trad. Women who actually follow their supposed ideals suffer in silence