Sander Tordoir
@sandertordoir.bsky.social
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Chief economist @ Centre for European Reform. Eurozone macroeconomic policies | Role of 🇩🇪 🇳🇱 in EU. Formerly @ECB, @IMF, @Worldbank.
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sandertordoir.bsky.social
Here is my starter pack on economics, trade and markets. Like others, my selection criterion was simple: these are minds I always learn from.

I'm sure I've missed many great accounts (still looking for some of my own friends). So please do suggest any additional names.

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ramshackle78.bsky.social
It's like with military, Europe left everything to the last minute, and now it's scrambling to set up sovereign capabilities. You don't get processing set up from one day to another.
Why did it take to March 2024 to have a European Critical Raw Materials Act?
sandertordoir.bsky.social
„So much for a small yard with a high fence—we now confront a big square with a Great Wall.“

Would think CFR‘s Froman just has coined the key new metaphor, after China dramatically escalated export controls.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
The inability of the US and Europe to build an own supply of rare earth refining - knowing for years it was a huge vulnerability - must be one of the most catastrophic policy failures of the decade.

One reason it‘s hard: the West cannot free trade its way out when China controls the price mechanism
sandertordoir.bsky.social
The inability of the US and Europe to build an own supply of rare earth refining - knowing for years it was a huge vulnerability - must be one of the most catastrophic policy failures of the decade.

One reason it‘s hard: the West cannot free trade its way out when China controls the price mechanism
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Would love to redirect intel money to Zeiss Trumpf clusters and Aachen / Leuven / Eindhoven. But that’s me.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Mind the endogeneity of policy support in the estimate: we are going to be fine because of IP measures, too, including from our friends in Asia.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
I was obviously provoking with the “industrial policy can never work“ trope.

But in my experience discussions at some conferences in Europe are barely above that level of argument - exchanging strawmen.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
It isn’t tiny, on the contrary - Tata Ijmuiden is Europes second largest steel plant.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Agree. The more we get into that nuanced discussion the better.

“You can’t pick winners” feels a bit stale at this point tbh, as does “let’s do industrial policy” with no specification.

There’s so much more interesting material to discuss and look at, including learning from Chinas successes.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
You dropped the R-word. Perhaps some European rare earth industrial policy, say ten years ago, would have helped today? :)

Goes back to your spot on first point: industrial policy can be necessary and work but it is an “it depends” (on sectors strategic value etc.) incl knowing when NOT to
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Indeed. I’d think letting energy intensive industries migrate to the sun and wind abundant regions of Europe is smart. Then cros—subsidise from rich European regions for the green transformation so you’re not dependent on Chinese steel for your panzers.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
But just because Tata is riddled with dilemmas and trade offs…steel does matter a tad for defence. We‘ll need more than lithography machines and consultants to rearm.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
One absurdity, of course, is that theres no European money for Beethoven. Europes key strategic sector and region and the Dutch have to solve it alone because we splurge EU money on [fill in]
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Absolutely. Beethoven is elegant I think - horizontal policy investments - education, labour, energy - but regionally and sector focused on Eindhoven. It’s good stuff.

Industrial policy is indeed far more tricky in dirty legacy industries. Do we let them die or try to transform?
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Come on Matt, a cop out! :) Do you like the Beethoven yes or no?

Always a joy to banter w Herr Dr Odendahl on this.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
You know, some of us have been banging the drum on the renminbi’s undervaluation with concern for a while.

Great to see the Fund Managing Director give it the attention it deserves.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
We can replace lost China auto export with demand at home
sandertordoir.bsky.social
So this wasn't a prelude to another one? SAD!
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Very impressive. Would add that Poland’s military rampup has also mainly benefitted foreign production - another source of amazement on the performance.
sandertordoir.bsky.social
As Nicolai says I am now anticipating another great Odendahl piece !
sandertordoir.bsky.social
Without checking it must be Poland.

When it comes to churning out growth, few countries can keep up with Poland in the world, let alone the western world.

Poland did not even have a recession in 2008. Boom.
codendahl.bsky.social
Which country's economy grew faster since the last quarter of 2021 (seasonally adjusted): the US or #Poland?