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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12h

I mean they say that but we know that other data that "shouldn't be sold" has found it's way to the dark web
When companies and govs start acting trustworthy I'll trust them
Until then I'll have a heavy level of skepticism and opt-outs (even though it should be opt in, not mandatory)

Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 16h

I mean I am one to not use biometric sign ins on my phone because I don't want Google or my phone manufacturer that data either.

Needless to say I perceived the UK has a date weaker security system than even the cheapest Huawei phone

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

as one point of failure is less secure than many in the UK system.
And they may claim it is voluntary but if you link everything to it for the sake of convenience then all other methods will be dropped, leading to it being mandatory in practice, as well as intent
I don't trust the UK gov "security"

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

Okay that specific one, maybe, I don't know Estonian systems enough to know one way or the other, but if leaks like this are happening I still don't want to find the UK being subject to it, especially not in a mandatory capacity
If voluntary it'd still be a bad thing to put everything in one place

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

I mean the UK govt can't seem to keep our id's safe at all.
The implementation of the OSA without prescribed restrictions on who can even do the ID checks alone shows that even if this digital ID is all done "in house" the UK is reckless with data security

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

Hell according to this report Estonia had a 700,000 ID codes leak, and 400,000 email addresses.
Even if just the email addresses alone is taken as gospel it's still 28.57% of all of Estonians

How does this sound safe, to anyone?
Convenience over safety is folly
www.ria.ee/en/lessons-m...

Lessons from a massive data leak

At the beginning of 2024, criminals breached the server of Allium UPI, stealing data on the customers of Apotheka, Apotheka Beauty and Pet City.

www.ria.ee

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

That would be a catastrophic leak and not a risk I'd wish to impose upon the UK population. Especially when there has been rumour of having kids as young as 13 years old to have a mandatory ID...yeah it's not a great start to their life to have their ID leaked
2/3

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 1d

So in 2021 the Estonian Digital ID had a breach that led to 286,438 people's ID's being leaked. With rough maths from the current population it'd be 20.46% of all Estonian's ID's leaked
And we're going to model our ID on a similar system
To compare such a breach tot he UK population is 14,64,458 1/3

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 6d

If you have to vote tactically the LibDems are currently opposing digital id and are in the least looking to reform the OSA, I'd not actually repealing it.

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 6d

And if, and only if, they show some actual care for data security and privacy.
I mean if there is an MoD style leak, or worse, an Estonia styled hack then everyone on the system is at risk. And if 13 y/o are on that system we'd've essentially ruined their lives as you can't unleak that data.

Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 8d

This is also not taking into consideration bad parents have been buying their kids non-age appropriate games for YEARS, hell I've seen with my own eyes parents openly buying GTA for their, like, 7 year old.
Government oversight causing platforms to over-restrict won't stop that, ever

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 8d

It's less "warning" and more "restriction via a form of payment many people don't have"
A similarly silly comparison would be moving sales of alcohol to a form of crypto that's linked to a Veteran's ID.
Any restriction is just a restriction on top of the existing moderation tools

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 11d

It is really weird for the EU to have such a hardon for biometrics when they have so many tourism based economies within their nations.
Nothing says "don't come here" more than "we'll but your biometric data on file with no ability to remove it".

Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

These things should be outlined before the announcement they're definitely going to do it, and as per the response to the petition they are doing it.
Personally we need a lot more reassurance of actual data security first before we even consider it
I mean the OSA has just had data leaks so...

Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

No, I'd also argue that with real names and faces that nuance would be further lost.
Americans don't "get" sarcasm as it is stereotypically, you want them coming for us with legal actions that can follow our real lives because they can't handle banter?

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

global system, who would, in this example, be the arbiters of what is/is not permitted to be said in the global eco-sphere where everyone is their real selves?
Are we going to have international warrants issued for a "crowd" of people protesting war crimes when that nation takes offense to it? 4/4

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

"I don't care if they burn the hotel down" it's going to go from fringe cases to common.
Hell I've said in public "Guy Fawkes had the right idea" to express my general distaste for government across 8 different prime ministers, does that class me as part of the problem?
Also the internet is a
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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

arrested over pretty minor stuff.
We've all seen videos of officers being sent to people's homes over a bad social media post. Even if fake with the laws currently set as they are it's inviting more of that if you simply express exasperation. Lucy Connoly went to prison for essentially saying 2/?

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 12d

True but if you wish to expose the crowd mentality people will get caught in the crossfire with the silly implementation of people saying "mean" things online being criminalised.
Actual harassment has been outstripped by negligible instances of people not using moderation tools getting people 1/?

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

The adage "don't feed the trolls" comes to mind.
There has been no end of heinous shit said online, but if you don't interact, block and ignore the "movements" fizzle out into tiny enclaves of irrelevance

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

Fraud isn't the concern for me, it's weak security causing leaks, hacks and scams
UK cyber security is abysmal, just look at the OSA where there has already been rumours of leaks of IDs within a month of it's implementation, actual reports will come sooner or later

Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

So don't treat anyone online as 100% serious
We have no obligation to assume anything anyone says online to be true, opinions included.
Block features and content moderation should be sufficient if you also treat everyone as a potential liar and not push to "expose" everyone

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

Online, none can, that's the entire point.

In the wider world we already have multiple forms if id that already do that.
The question is the mandatory nature, who decides what is/is not allowed to be included or is/is not safe to display.
ATM the govt fails at this and I don't trust their abilities

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

1) those authentication systems are in lieu of anonymous systems that can work by auto-generating codes instead.
2) I have never used biometric data unlocks on my phone/bank as I don't want that being attached if that data is hacked, not should we link biometrics to our behaviour and activity

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Mazder @mazder.bsky.social · 13d

In the same way that the MoD kept all the info about Afghan people who helped us against the Taliban we were supposed to keep safe?

If the MoD can't keep a few hundred thousand ID's safe, what makes you think the UK can keep every single ID safe?
One hack/data leak and we're done

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