Tim Norfolk
@icmtim.bsky.social
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UK single CCT ICM consultant. Strive to be humbled less often! #Haemodynamics #POCUS #FOAM
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In honor of spooky month, share a 4 word horror story only someone in your profession would understand

“Remember that patient you…”
shaiuk.bsky.social
In honor of spooky month, share a 4 word horror story only someone in your profession would understand

“They’re for FULL escalation”
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In honor of spooky month, share a 4 word horror story only someone in your profession would understand

“papers in IEEE format”
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normal mentation *doesn't* indicate adequate systemic perfusion

especially in cardiogenic shock, people can mentate well despite terrible CO & systemic perfusion

poor mentation is sometimes an early sign of *septic* shock, but often a very late indicator of other shock states #EMIMCC
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icmtim.bsky.social
One memorable patient for me, transitioned to palliative care for decompensated advanced heart failure. They had a CVP ≈25 and a MAP in the 40s & were mentating just fine for quite some time. There was very little perfusion pressure/CO but the brain clung on til the last possible moment 😢
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My argument is that experiencing pain is patient focused, even when there is no recall. For example: when people reduce fractures using morphine/midazolam & pts scream in agony, before minutes later asking if anyones pulled their ankle yet. They HAVE suffered, & we should strive to do better.
icmtim.bsky.social
You can do this without lying, which is virtually always the preferable option
icmtim.bsky.social
If our scientific understanding evolves to suggest our current practice is leading to a degree of awareness that causes suffering, even if not recalled by patients, we have a moral imperative to change our practice, and not accept the current standard of care (or by extension, option 1)

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So Pete forgive my ignorance around the IFT literature, but have people tried doing it and instead of asking squeeze my hand, saying squeeze my hand if you’re suffering (or something akin to this)? Then we could delineate if the experience at that time was one we should strive to avoid

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icmtim.bsky.social
I don’t think you can genuinely be a number 1 can you, if using any normal/non-IFT definition of awareness. Would you agree to undergo an operation with awareness but the guarantee of being given a perfect amnesiac at the end so you forgot the whole tortuous experience?
icmtim.bsky.social
This is likely why we may be talking at cross purposes then. My gold standard of awareness definitely mandates conscious experience, isolated forearm technique be damned 🤣
icmtim.bsky.social
It was just an example of something you could be aware of. Fundamentally, there is little one could be aware of/experience during an op that wouldn’t be unpleasant, hence the desire for general anaesthesia. Awareness is therefore highly likely to lead to suffering. Amnesia does not obviate this
icmtim.bsky.social
That’s why I caveated my answer by saying if the awareness you refer to was of an unpleasant experience, & I think we can project our lived experiences to this space. I am confident being aware of being intubated would be unpleasant, & don’t feel I need someone’s recollection of this to confirm that
icmtim.bsky.social
I think I disagree, assuming the sensory experience is unpleasant at least. Awareness by definition implies consciously experiencing something. If that something is unpleasant then, to me, that equates to suffering, irrespective of whether the experience is recalled
icmtim.bsky.social
I’m not an anaesthetist so less of a problem for me 😋

But morally I think it is clear that causing suffering regardless of whether or not it recalled should be avoided where possible. The lack of recall does not mean the suffering is not real, therefore it’s an inferior/less acceptable outcome
icmtim.bsky.social
I would hope it is abundantly clear the answer is no. But, if the choice is between awareness with or without recall then I personally would opt for without
icmtim.bsky.social
I try to avoid commenting on anything political on here, but this is TOO DAMN DELICIOUS 🤤
icmtim.bsky.social
This is niche and I’m here for it. Whilst we’re nitpicking Guyton, distinguishing stressed volume from volume seems an unnecessary step. If you have venoconstriction, Pms will rise given the reduction in venous compliance whilst volume remains unchanged. Am I missing something?
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27 ffs, it’s absolutely bonkers isn’t it. Totally agree with your reflections, I liked rotating but think each placement should be a minimum of 6 months, 4 different hospitals in a year is patently insane.

But anyway, congrats 🥂, and enjoy setting down some roots!
icmtim.bsky.social
I was lucky enough to visit my god-daughter last week in Toronto, 🇨🇦. She goes to an excellent nursery for $22/d (≈£12) under their CWELCC program. Both parents happily back to work full time. Will doubtless pay for itself (& then some) through higher lifelong maternal earnings/tax revenue.
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Used as go to push-dose vasopressor in our region of 🇬🇧
icmtim.bsky.social
Correct. Trying to protect children from harmful content and from receiving DMs from predatory adults is so clearly worth the trade off. Additionally most of the people complaining already have a photo of themselves on their profile 🤷‍♂️
icmtim.bsky.social
Those same pts have a RASS of -4/5 though right? I’m sceptical about using EEG in ICU to target sedation when the desired endpoint is clinical (i .e. RASS) not electroencephalogical (real word?).

Suspect we’d get more bang for our buck getting the basics right without more gadgetry
icmtim.bsky.social
I just don’t get the anger about this. Features that mean children can’t be sent direct messages from predatory adults is surely a good thing. Why the big upset? I personally applaud any govt/company adopting such measures
icmtim.bsky.social
How has this only got 1 like?! Criminal. Honestly this is the closest I’ve been to rejoining Twitter
icmtim.bsky.social
A platform taking steps to protect children from SoMe should surely be congratulated, especially in a climate where all their competitors take no such measures