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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 39m

No you did not. I meant the royal we, and really more the people who are loudly screaming “they’ve always been like this!”. Not the first time today I’ve seen that article, but it is the first time I used the “what about Dems of that time” argument and I was just kinda working it all out.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 1h

Harry Reid said we should embrace Obama because he was a light-skinned with “no Negro dialect” so let’s not retcon it so that Republicans were always racist but Democrats haven’t been.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 1h

Democrats of that time also very likely used racial slurs too though. So I don’t find these “relevations” particularly useful.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 2h

This is exactly what I’ve been debating all morning. And when you grow up in a conservative family, deprogramming in hard. As someone who was in the CR in the late 90’s myself, I now realize that the core of the GOP has always been racist, but I also know it was never so unabashed as this.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 2h

Like most of the things he says, that never happened, but it’s just insane that he thinks it’s OK to ad lib a bunch of bullshit like this.

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Tom Joscelyn @tomjoscelyn.bsky.social · 4h

Hakeem Jeffries posted pictures of two Rep. Members posing with “Young Republicans” who were part of a racist text thread (as reported by Politico).

In response, Mike Davis (well-connected in Trump World & on the Hill) called Jeffries a “house slave” for George Soros - proving Jeffries’ point.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 3h

I know it’s a misspelling but SOC To US is a pretty accurate description of the SCOTUS these days.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

BTW pause to say I very much appreciate the discussion with minimum vitriol, I need to bow out but will pop on a later if you want to further the chat.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

Again, these folks openly discussed the posssibility of their group chat getting leaked, and didn’t care.

I don’t quite think you’re applying the open invitation analogy properly. If this is their group chat that every member is on, that’s very much the invitation I’m talking about.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

These were not back room discussions. They openly discussed the implications of their char being leaked and didn’t care. Now, the reason why they didn’t care is because of exactly what you said.

“Welfare Queens” weren’t a policy. It was a pejorative that the press did cover as a pejorative.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

But if you’re saying the environment today is like what it was 25 years ago, I just don’t agree there. Yes, the seeds were always there. Yes, some of us grew up in it, and still have CON family members, and realize we were naive.

We also realize this climate is very different from the past.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

Or they just didn’t realize what it was. One of my best friend is Croatian and he was harassed at airports post 9/11. That made me rethink things. I know I’m not unique. When those things become personal to people, they change. That’s something we should encourage. And I know you do.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 4h

What was the 60’s? Southern Strategy and Atwater? Late 60’s really, and Atwater’s influence was largely in the 80’s.

LOL most of us weren’t invited. Now there’s an open invitation. That’s literally the point I drew from the OPs posts.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

What a fucking hack and waste of my time.

The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Wow. You accused me about sweeping generalizations and then came up with this.

What is that term you used. Deeply somethinganother?

The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

It wasn’t, but you’re making a sweeping generalization that is how everyone felt. Or that is at least how it seems.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Also look at it from someone growing up in that era. “Welfare Queens” doesn’t smack as racist to a 10 year old white kid. You probably have to explain WHY it’s racist to them.

But I love Hitler and gas chambers, those are pretty explicit messages.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

I don’t see it as a defense rather as “it was never like THIS” … there’s a difference between the small government / austerity based conservatism that targeted minorities through policy and openly stating “I love Hitler” and I believe that is what is being expressed here.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Or perhaps you’re conflating “I’ve heard the Nixon tapes” with “every single person who voted Republican is exactly like I heard on the Nixon tapes”.

Agreed with Southern Strategy, folks like Thurmond and Atwater infecting the GOP with traditional Southern racism killed the GOP.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Forgiveness needs work and fuck and apology in the same sentence pretty much sums up how reasonable people are here.

What do I need to be forgiven for and work should I be doing?

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Using the term “deeply unserious” is also pretty on brand for a BSKY hack too.

The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Yes, your large scale inference from one simple sentence is indeed deeply unserious, but it is also textbook BSKY hackery.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

But I do think the “I’m a woman I’m used to the bullying” bit was a bit performative and didn’t help her. But she had already gotten the pitchforks by then. We’ve all gotten them at least once before online. You get SUPER defensive.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

Some of us share that similar experience. And she is right that alternative conservative groups formed because the YRs and CRs weren’t conservative enough. I don’t think she is denying anything or has anything to apologize for.

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The Return of Sexy Boy @goosedoggy.bsky.social · 5h

How long exactly has it been a platform of racism exactly? Just curious your concept of that.

But realize that the OP isn’t denying the Atwater-style racism of the 80’s and 90’s, she’s saying that it was hidden and even in private they weren’t that openly racist.

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