Don't forget that they also formed the First Democracy and our constitution was inspired by it.

proilly Fracking

smiles. YEP.

I had to go find a clip www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGFt...

2/ nor can we forget Thomas Fugate, the 22 year old Trump campaign worked appointed as the lead counter terrorism coordinator at DHS.

So the new Headline should be:

TRUMP DECIDED TO LEAVE AFGHAN TERRORISTS ON THE STREET AND INSTEAD DEPORT YOUR FRIENDLY LANDSCAPER.

or

TRUMP ADMIN IDENTIFIED 8 AFGHAN TERRORISTS IN JULY, ONLY TO LEAVE THEM ON THE STREET TO CAUSE HARM

In June US officials identified 55 Afghan evacuees on the terrorist watchlist who had immigrated from the Middle Eastern country, according to a Justice Department inspector general report.

Was Rahmanullah Lakanwal on the list? Why'd Trump let him stayin US?

www.grassley.senate.gov/imo/media/do...

WRKP, in Cincinaaatiii

but almost everyone, once they understand what Defund means, agrees with what it represents.
We just need better marketing here maybe.

We need a different way to market it to be sure, at least imo. I used to explain it as "re-fund" the police, as in "re-do", or "fund differently" not "give money back". That of course, didn't work either, haha. But the whole movement became "No no, defund means this and this, not *that* ad nauseum.

Absolutely. The whole CJS need reform to focus on better outcomes and prevention-through-social-support. If Police treated my neighborhood like they do black neighborhoods, we would see a spike in white crime. Why? Bc we are the _same_. White ppl just don't get policed enough to get caught.

Trump admin reviewed ALL the Afghan refugees ties to terror this summer - Grassley published report. They found 55 ppl out of 90k who they said was a terrorist. Then reduced the number to 8. What did their review say of this shooter? Did Trump Admin clear him? Why did Trump leave him on the street?

no problem. This convo is exactly why i don't like the slogan. It immediately brings to mind abolish or end, not reform. "Defund" in this context has a history though and means something else, which most ppl are not familiar with so we got nowhere bc ppl kept fighting on what the term means.

ah, yes yes, this is why we are not understanding each other. Defund means to re-allocate. Say reduce Dept militarization tactics, and use that money to improve social welfare programs that are proven to reduce crime.
It also means to not increase funding to continue harassing black neighborhoods

Actually - this is a much better article and probably directly answers some of your questions www.law.buffalo.edu/blog/What_do...

Maybe its time we ask you, what do you think "defund the police" means? Like - whats your understanding? What do you think happens if we adopted the approach?

I don't mean this dickishly, but did you read the article I provided? The whole premise of "Defund" is to re-allocate _some_ funding, from the Police, to Social Programs that actually _prevent_ crime in the first place (which policing does NOT.

Policing is finding perps after a crime is commited.

apologies. My comment meant to support your comment but I guess I worded it weird