thimbles.bsky.social
@thimbles.bsky.social
People do not use information to determine their social identities; they use their social identities to determine what counts as information. The climate fight is, and has always been, an identity fight. Gonna talk with @samuel-bagg.bsky.social about this soon.
The Problem is Epistemic. The Solution is Not. | Blog of the APA
Doubts about the wisdom of the masses are as old as philosophy itself. Yet interest in democracy’s “epistemic” merits has surged in the last decade—and it is no mystery why. Democracy is collapsing ar...
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December 1, 2025 at 7:19 AM
An extreme example: Does Pielke think the dinosaurs needed to wait 30 years before deciding that climate had changed after the K-T impact event? (Nope).
All to say that detection of climate change is a function of signal-to-noise & isn't restricted to arbitrary periods by either IPCC or Pielke.
All to say that detection of climate change is a function of signal-to-noise & isn't restricted to arbitrary periods by either IPCC or Pielke.
December 1, 2025 at 7:15 AM
..."As one focus group participant noted, climate change “sounds like you’re going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.” While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional challenge."
December 1, 2025 at 7:08 AM
..."As one focus group participant noted, climate change “sounds like you’re going from Pittsburgh to Fort Lauderdale.” While global warming has catastrophic connotations attached to it, climate change suggests a more controllable and less emotional challenge."
It was called climate change in the scientific literature, but it was a poll tested push from Frank Luntz that made it mainstream:
goodtimesweb.org/industrial-p...
"“Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming.”"...
goodtimesweb.org/industrial-p...
"“Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming.”"...
goodtimesweb.org
December 1, 2025 at 7:07 AM
It was called climate change in the scientific literature, but it was a poll tested push from Frank Luntz that made it mainstream:
goodtimesweb.org/industrial-p...
"“Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming.”"...
goodtimesweb.org/industrial-p...
"“Climate change” is less frightening than “global warming.”"...
Or Ben Shapiro.
youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?...
youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?...
November 30, 2025 at 11:28 PM
Or Ben Shapiro.
youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?...
youtu.be/RLqXkYrdmjY?...
"Who should pay?"
Can I suggest @thehonestbroker.bsky.social?
Can I suggest @thehonestbroker.bsky.social?
November 30, 2025 at 11:22 PM
"Who should pay?"
Can I suggest @thehonestbroker.bsky.social?
Can I suggest @thehonestbroker.bsky.social?
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What provoked the disinformation was the concept that energy use is an essential part of capitalist industry, so that any attempt to curtail industry must be an attempt to kneecap capitalism by socialists.
November 30, 2025 at 10:19 PM
What provoked the disinformation was the concept that energy use is an essential part of capitalist industry, so that any attempt to curtail industry must be an attempt to kneecap capitalism by socialists.
And you can't trust all those scientists, activists, people on affected landscapes, and corals.
They complain about everything.
Especially about the weather.
They complain about everything.
Especially about the weather.
November 30, 2025 at 11:20 PM
And you can't trust all those scientists, activists, people on affected landscapes, and corals.
They complain about everything.
Especially about the weather.
They complain about everything.
Especially about the weather.
We can be good people and own slaves. We can be good people and support illegal wars. We can be good people and cause hurt to our spouses. We can be good people and pour the gas on our planet.
Because, according to what we good people know, there's nothing wrong with it.
We have permission.
Because, according to what we good people know, there's nothing wrong with it.
We have permission.
November 30, 2025 at 11:13 PM
We can be good people and own slaves. We can be good people and support illegal wars. We can be good people and cause hurt to our spouses. We can be good people and pour the gas on our planet.
Because, according to what we good people know, there's nothing wrong with it.
We have permission.
Because, according to what we good people know, there's nothing wrong with it.
We have permission.
We need the lie, even if it's a bad one, even if we don't really believe it ourselves, we need the lie to patch the hole between what we should be doing and what we actually do. Disinformation gives us an out to avoid self examination and self sacrifice.
November 30, 2025 at 11:08 PM
We need the lie, even if it's a bad one, even if we don't really believe it ourselves, we need the lie to patch the hole between what we should be doing and what we actually do. Disinformation gives us an out to avoid self examination and self sacrifice.
People absorb information not just because of social identity, but because of our belief in ourselves that we are not bad people.
Therefore, when we are doing actions that might be considered bad, we need to have justification to maintain our individual concept of self as good.
Therefore, when we are doing actions that might be considered bad, we need to have justification to maintain our individual concept of self as good.
November 30, 2025 at 11:05 PM
People absorb information not just because of social identity, but because of our belief in ourselves that we are not bad people.
Therefore, when we are doing actions that might be considered bad, we need to have justification to maintain our individual concept of self as good.
Therefore, when we are doing actions that might be considered bad, we need to have justification to maintain our individual concept of self as good.
That isn't it.
@michaelemann.bsky.social put out the idea that there are 5 interconnecting forces that are opposing science and actions based on it.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
Excuse my vanity, but I would like to add a sixth - permission structures.
@michaelemann.bsky.social put out the idea that there are 5 interconnecting forces that are opposing science and actions based on it.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
Excuse my vanity, but I would like to add a sixth - permission structures.
Science is under siege from weaponised disinformation – posing a threat to human civilisation | Michael Mann and Peter Hotez
From Covid misinformation to climate denialism, understanding the divergent paths of Australia and the US can help us fight the powerful forces that threaten our world
www.theguardian.com
November 30, 2025 at 11:02 PM
That isn't it.
@michaelemann.bsky.social put out the idea that there are 5 interconnecting forces that are opposing science and actions based on it.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
Excuse my vanity, but I would like to add a sixth - permission structures.
@michaelemann.bsky.social put out the idea that there are 5 interconnecting forces that are opposing science and actions based on it.
www.theguardian.com/commentisfre...
Excuse my vanity, but I would like to add a sixth - permission structures.
But yeah, what I think we really need to get at is that we see information and disinformation as competing steps towards gaining a better understanding of the world.
And therefore we think disinformation is creating noise and signal interference for people to get that better understanding.
And therefore we think disinformation is creating noise and signal interference for people to get that better understanding.
November 30, 2025 at 10:58 PM
But yeah, what I think we really need to get at is that we see information and disinformation as competing steps towards gaining a better understanding of the world.
And therefore we think disinformation is creating noise and signal interference for people to get that better understanding.
And therefore we think disinformation is creating noise and signal interference for people to get that better understanding.
@the-goose-media.bsky.social just did a video on 'petro masculinity' that's worth a watch on the type of people being recruited for this "defending the culture" activism:
youtu.be/a9Zp5o96O0Y
These are people who are being given purpose by the manosphere (not to be confused with the Mannosphere)...
youtu.be/a9Zp5o96O0Y
These are people who are being given purpose by the manosphere (not to be confused with the Mannosphere)...
The Manosphere is Destroying the Biosphere | The Goose
YouTube video by The Goose
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November 30, 2025 at 10:55 PM
Hitting the gas, driving the beast, eating the meat, burning the earth, it's all a part of being a man. Not that oat milk, nurture the planet, drive a Prius, windmill junk. That's a woman thing.
@amywestervelt.bsky.social covers that petro-masculine stuff.
bsky.app/profile/thim...
@amywestervelt.bsky.social covers that petro-masculine stuff.
bsky.app/profile/thim...
But to go deeper into why Landman and Billy Bob is being employed to sell the big oil message, you need to go into @amywestervelt.bsky.social's work on petro-masculinity in the podcast season 13 of @drilledmedia.bsky.social
drilled.media/podcasts/dri...
Carbon-Bros.
drilled.media/podcasts/dri...
Carbon-Bros.
Drilled
A true-crime podcast about climate change.
drilled.media
November 30, 2025 at 10:48 PM
Hitting the gas, driving the beast, eating the meat, burning the earth, it's all a part of being a man. Not that oat milk, nurture the planet, drive a Prius, windmill junk. That's a woman thing.
@amywestervelt.bsky.social covers that petro-masculine stuff.
bsky.app/profile/thim...
@amywestervelt.bsky.social covers that petro-masculine stuff.
bsky.app/profile/thim...
Before it was Rush Limbaugh turning the frustration against being stuck in traffic into ragertainment against liberals and the feminazis, now it's Rogan/Peterson/Tate etc turning the frustration over being a man shaped peg facing a multicultural/multi gender hole against Greta Thunberg.
November 30, 2025 at 10:43 PM
Before it was Rush Limbaugh turning the frustration against being stuck in traffic into ragertainment against liberals and the feminazis, now it's Rogan/Peterson/Tate etc turning the frustration over being a man shaped peg facing a multicultural/multi gender hole against Greta Thunberg.
But one thing that is a new phenomenon is this concept of men losing social status and pursuing reactionary politics against that which took their power.
This is Steve Bannon going after the disaffected gamers and the sports people to turn them into MAGA.
This is Steve Bannon going after the disaffected gamers and the sports people to turn them into MAGA.
November 30, 2025 at 10:35 PM
But one thing that is a new phenomenon is this concept of men losing social status and pursuing reactionary politics against that which took their power.
This is Steve Bannon going after the disaffected gamers and the sports people to turn them into MAGA.
This is Steve Bannon going after the disaffected gamers and the sports people to turn them into MAGA.
@peterhotezmdphd.bsky.social and @michaelemann.bsky.social wrote a book on all of that and there's an Oxford University Press book you can find lots of online resources for:
skepticalscience.com/new-book-cli...
skepticalscience.com/new-book-cli...
New Book - Climate Obstruction: A global Assessment
Climate Obstruction: A Global Assessment is a new book from Brown University’s global Climate Social Science Network, for which a team of more than 100 scholars explored who’s blocking action on clima...
skepticalscience.com
November 30, 2025 at 10:30 PM
@peterhotezmdphd.bsky.social and @michaelemann.bsky.social wrote a book on all of that and there's an Oxford University Press book you can find lots of online resources for:
skepticalscience.com/new-book-cli...
skepticalscience.com/new-book-cli...
So you have this union of capitalists and church that distrusts government and any cause that expands a government role over wealth's/God's domains.
Which is why the disinfo movement quickly morphed against public health during covid and back to climate after.
Which is why the disinfo movement quickly morphed against public health during covid and back to climate after.
November 30, 2025 at 10:27 PM
So you have this union of capitalists and church that distrusts government and any cause that expands a government role over wealth's/God's domains.
Which is why the disinfo movement quickly morphed against public health during covid and back to climate after.
Which is why the disinfo movement quickly morphed against public health during covid and back to climate after.
Therefore anyone: scientists, activists, nations on affected landscapes, coral beds, anyone who pushed this message of energy restraint must be a socialist who must be opposed.
Especially if you believe that socialism supplants God. God is anti-communist therefore God must be anti-environmental.
Especially if you believe that socialism supplants God. God is anti-communist therefore God must be anti-environmental.
November 30, 2025 at 10:23 PM
Therefore anyone: scientists, activists, nations on affected landscapes, coral beds, anyone who pushed this message of energy restraint must be a socialist who must be opposed.
Especially if you believe that socialism supplants God. God is anti-communist therefore God must be anti-environmental.
Especially if you believe that socialism supplants God. God is anti-communist therefore God must be anti-environmental.
What provoked the disinformation was the concept that energy use is an essential part of capitalist industry, so that any attempt to curtail industry must be an attempt to kneecap capitalism by socialists.
November 30, 2025 at 10:19 PM
What provoked the disinformation was the concept that energy use is an essential part of capitalist industry, so that any attempt to curtail industry must be an attempt to kneecap capitalism by socialists.