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Solution: Demand payment in crypto (this doubles as degradation kink for them)

joyce on his fucking eevee alt again

The way to understand this is deep fear of an upstart competitor making a better OS and stealing their otherwise unassailable monopoly. Google fears ChatGPT for the same reason. Better to flail wildly to choke off that path than sensibly stay the course.

god damnit i knew this one

this feels like a targeted thirst trap

excuse me the whatman

all wines are the same wine. sommeliers can't fool me. it's got notes of fermented grapes and subtle undertones of glass bottle, that's what it's got

that last sentence was real dweeby and i feel slightly ashamed

In other words, if someone has an agenda when they say something we should be careful not to trust them too much, but that doesn't mean we can automatically believe that they're wrong! Hype is uncorrelated with reality, but not *anti*-correlated

The internet during the dotcom boom era is a good analogy here: Yeah it was a bubble, yeah the hype was crazy, yeah a lot of companies went bust. But the tech was real and 10 years later it ate the economy, followed by most of politics and society too.

I think if we disagree on anything, it's whether we can assume the technology will remain safe and well-behaved. And it's important to keep that question separate from the question of whether tech CEOs are exaggerating their product (they are and always will)

But both things can be true at the same time: There's a lot of hype, and yeah a lot of the people who get real mystical about conscious robots are probably bullshit artists, but despite that the technology is still real and powerful and weird and unpredictable!

I think you're focused on the idea that talk of consciousness and thought and emergent capabilities is a way for techbros to diffuse responsibility and hype their technology and get rich, and yeah, a lot of it is that.

Hmn, I'm not sure we disagree! If I understand right, you're saying "we shouldn't talk this way because it confuses laypeople about the technology", which is probably true, but I still think there are real issues here!

(also you're cool and i like your art a lot, i hope i'm not annoying you)

Like, even if we don't get a conscious being with innate drives, we might get a bot who's a better hacker than any human, connected to the internet with weird goals that we don't fully understand because we fucked up during training somewhere. It's not entirely risk-free!

But I think it's clear that they are growing in capability and we don't know where that stops, and also that they behave in ways that aren't always predictable. I agree the chances are that it'll all turn out okay in the end, but I don't think we can dismiss the danger!