If the goal is to reduce the cost of food and alleviate food scarcity, there are many other tried and true systems that are much more cost effective than setting up a government run retail footprint. They are decidedly less sexy though so harder to turn into a sound bite.

Government run liquor stores are great for *generating revenue*. They’re not a particularly good way of providing the goods as cheaply as possible.

The places its been tried that I can think of Russia, Cuba, Venezuela, East Germany, Yugoslavia. There does seem to be a theme.

Less on the nose - India, Sri Lanka, Mexico (now shut down). Those last three more subsidized staple distribution than true grocery.

What examples are you thinking of?

Government run grocery stores is an experiment that’s been run many times. It would be nice if we could try some new ideas instead of some flawed old ones!

Now do onshore wind 😉

One notable exception…

Yeah, the CA definition seems to be extremely vague and hand wavy. “Does it sound good? Great. Add it in.”

Also seems like the other issue, which is maybe your point, is the magical thinking that regenerative ag will solve all our ag emissions so we don’t really need to worry about doing anything else.

It seems like the bigger issue right now though is that all the attention is on the carbon sequestration side where the science a whole lot weaker

I guess for me there’s the “regen will pull carbon out of the air” and the science there seems uncertain and “regen encourages a more sustainable set of farming practices” which seems a little clearer. Some of the more aggressive claims around fertilizer use seem off but 30-50% isn’t crazy

Ah interesting, that makes a lot of sense

I mean definitely seems like the science is still early and needs more research, but even if the only benefit is reduced fertilizer use due to better soil health and there’s no incremental soil carbon stored, still seems like it would make a meaningful dent in emissions.

Seems like regenerative ag does a lot to help with both 3 and 5, what am I missing?

- inside is surprisingly spacious, the long wheelbase makes a big difference.
- love having all the safety features and cameras we got used to in our Rivian. I cannot imagine buying a car without a front camera at this point.

- I didn’t expect this, but I *hate* having to deal with CarPlay again. At least with the 2025s it will be wireless
- Highway assist is solid. It isn’t as good as Rivian’s Driver+ but it works everywhere so I’d give the Ioniq an edge here.
- Frunk is kind of useless

Will be interesting to see what happens the rest of the year. We’re part of this of statistic even though we didn’t need a 2nd car just yet but wanted to get in while the lease credit was still around. Otherwise might have wait for the 2025 Ioniq 5.

Big congrats!

Just here to join the party saying do it. Do it now while the rebates still exist. You will not regret it. Especially since it sounds like you live in a more temperate climate.