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It's compatible to say they are under one umbrella of not wage transaction and that one is has more mute compulsion than the other.
December 5, 2025 at 10:06 PM
It's compatible to say they are under one umbrella of not wage transaction and that one is has more mute compulsion than the other.
He is countering a quote that equated landlord-tenant to capitalist-wage worker, which I’m not doing. So that’s a different point than the one going on here.
December 5, 2025 at 9:16 PM
He is countering a quote that equated landlord-tenant to capitalist-wage worker, which I’m not doing. So that’s a different point than the one going on here.
I have. And it doesn't say YIMBYism is the solution.
December 5, 2025 at 8:59 PM
I have. And it doesn't say YIMBYism is the solution.
It's saying landlords aren't buying labor-power, which I agree with. He's not saying there's no difference between landlords and stores.
December 5, 2025 at 8:44 PM
It's saying landlords aren't buying labor-power, which I agree with. He's not saying there's no difference between landlords and stores.
Then what’s your point? I said housing is not subject to the same market forces as goods trade. The quotes don’t disagree. It is the purpose of landlording to trade no labor for labor to a much greater extent than other trades.
December 5, 2025 at 8:13 PM
Then what’s your point? I said housing is not subject to the same market forces as goods trade. The quotes don’t disagree. It is the purpose of landlording to trade no labor for labor to a much greater extent than other trades.
Saying it is a commodity it saying it is a means of wealth extraction like I did. He’s not saying it resolves to the cost of reproduction. That’s social housing. Other places have it. Look it up. The first Vienna one is named after Marx.
December 5, 2025 at 6:16 PM
Saying it is a commodity it saying it is a means of wealth extraction like I did. He’s not saying it resolves to the cost of reproduction. That’s social housing. Other places have it. Look it up. The first Vienna one is named after Marx.
Yes, commodity transaction which is not cost of reproduction. We can offer a cost of reproduction option as a floor, and that would help anchor the ceiling.
December 5, 2025 at 8:09 AM
Yes, commodity transaction which is not cost of reproduction. We can offer a cost of reproduction option as a floor, and that would help anchor the ceiling.
Plus, mini studios in Seoul are STILL cheaper. I checked, and my place in Korea is still only $600/mo for more space and amenities. 🤦♂️
December 5, 2025 at 4:13 AM
Plus, mini studios in Seoul are STILL cheaper. I checked, and my place in Korea is still only $600/mo for more space and amenities. 🤦♂️
He’s just distinguishing that the transaction is different than wage labor. The snippet you’re using out of context would be the cost of *social housing*. Landlords openly admit they charge 2x the cost of that.
December 4, 2025 at 5:29 PM
He’s just distinguishing that the transaction is different than wage labor. The snippet you’re using out of context would be the cost of *social housing*. Landlords openly admit they charge 2x the cost of that.
It means the problem is in having no imagination past “developers build the housing”. Just not even historically true.
December 3, 2025 at 11:24 PM
It means the problem is in having no imagination past “developers build the housing”. Just not even historically true.
Wdym? I can’t keep up on it all, but I’d heard they are progressing on a feasible roadmap.
sfpublicbank.org
sfpublicbank.org
San Francisco Public Bank Coalition
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December 3, 2025 at 10:56 PM
Wdym? I can’t keep up on it all, but I’d heard they are progressing on a feasible roadmap.
sfpublicbank.org
sfpublicbank.org
For sure, GL! We support the local measure being as progressive as possible, especially!
December 3, 2025 at 10:54 PM
For sure, GL! We support the local measure being as progressive as possible, especially!
I’m seeing if I can help rent control in Redwood City next year so I don’t personally have the exact next steps they’re at, but there are groups in the city to connect with.
December 3, 2025 at 10:51 PM
I’m seeing if I can help rent control in Redwood City next year so I don’t personally have the exact next steps they’re at, but there are groups in the city to connect with.
Then agreed, but this started with me just saying this plan has major down sides for the community, so transit advocates shouldn’t give free positive spin. That’s all.
But, yes, there are other avenues like the public bank coalition, or running other props or candidates next cycle.
But, yes, there are other avenues like the public bank coalition, or running other props or candidates next cycle.
December 3, 2025 at 10:49 PM
Then agreed, but this started with me just saying this plan has major down sides for the community, so transit advocates shouldn’t give free positive spin. That’s all.
But, yes, there are other avenues like the public bank coalition, or running other props or candidates next cycle.
But, yes, there are other avenues like the public bank coalition, or running other props or candidates next cycle.
The low class American spends twice as much of their income on housing than peer nations. More supply is only shown to slow cost growth, not cut costs in half. So this is actively avoiding addressing the actual issue.
December 3, 2025 at 10:44 PM
The low class American spends twice as much of their income on housing than peer nations. More supply is only shown to slow cost growth, not cut costs in half. So this is actively avoiding addressing the actual issue.
The public bank method is gaining grass roots momentum but “with what money” deflects that the people approving this plan are not pursuing anything in that direction. This is only see as a reasonable compromise because they help shut down those alternatives
December 3, 2025 at 10:42 PM
The public bank method is gaining grass roots momentum but “with what money” deflects that the people approving this plan are not pursuing anything in that direction. This is only see as a reasonable compromise because they help shut down those alternatives
What’s predicted is private developers will lose interest, which they do without rent control as well. So they should be spending their efforts creating other means of production, but they’re not.
December 3, 2025 at 10:40 PM
What’s predicted is private developers will lose interest, which they do without rent control as well. So they should be spending their efforts creating other means of production, but they’re not.
And I’m talking about the system of how we move forward
December 3, 2025 at 10:38 PM
And I’m talking about the system of how we move forward
I don’t expect them to do a lot of things, which is why this is a bad plan.
December 3, 2025 at 10:37 PM
I don’t expect them to do a lot of things, which is why this is a bad plan.
It’s still a clear demonstration of the priorities of the mayor and collective board
December 3, 2025 at 10:36 PM
It’s still a clear demonstration of the priorities of the mayor and collective board
Sure, but it’s not pragmatic to pretend this works against affordability.
December 3, 2025 at 10:35 PM
Sure, but it’s not pragmatic to pretend this works against affordability.
It’s not opposition to building more supply, there are plenty of approved lots already, it’s opposition to deconstructing enforced affordability with no equivalent replacement. New construction will not be as affordable and in many cases affordability requirements time out.
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December 3, 2025 at 10:35 PM
It’s not opposition to building more supply, there are plenty of approved lots already, it’s opposition to deconstructing enforced affordability with no equivalent replacement. New construction will not be as affordable and in many cases affordability requirements time out.