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Kristie De Garis
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November 26, 2025 at 10:18 PM
Interesting, from my perspective, you’re the one representing a contrarian minority position here (e.g Covid having no immune escape) with very high confidence and very little humility.
November 26, 2025 at 10:14 PM
Just to say, there’s not a single scientific consensus on these issues. Yet you talk like there is. Many immunologists, virologists, epidemiologists, and clinicians disagree with the positions you’re presenting as settled.
November 26, 2025 at 9:58 PM
It feels like you’re treating me as a category rather than engaging with what I’m actually saying, and there’s a lot of bias being piled onto me that isn’t mine.
November 26, 2025 at 9:51 PM
You're claiming certainty when the field is uncertain. I genuinely hope you are right.
November 26, 2025 at 9:43 PM
The comparison I’m making is not between 2020 COVID & seasonal flu. I’m comparing current SARS-CoV-2 with current seasonal influenza. I dont have time to go find everything ive read. If you believe flu’s overall impact is currently greater, I’m happy for you to share recent data that supports that
November 26, 2025 at 9:35 PM
Marc, with respect, I’m not uninformed about viruses. In fact I am well informed. So I’m very aware of postviral consequences. I came to the conversation in good faith, but the dismissiveness and condescension aren’t helpful.
November 26, 2025 at 9:32 PM
By every measurable metric I’m aware of (mortality, reinfection frequency, systemic involvement, and long term sequelae) COVID appears worse than seasonal flu. Everything I’ve read supports that.

Thanks again, Good night
November 26, 2025 at 9:28 PM
I think I’m going to leave it here for tonight. Thanks for your time. I was genuinely hoping to learn, but the conversation feels a bit like we’re talking past each other.
November 26, 2025 at 9:26 PM
Right, but receptor binding wasn’t what I meant. I’m talking about the population pattern. The reinfection frequency, immune escape, and long-term sequelae profile. The receptor a virus uses doesn’t really address that.
November 26, 2025 at 9:24 PM
Just to check I’m understanding, are you saying those viruses have the same reinfection frequency, the same long-term sequelae profile, and the same population-level impact as SARS-CoV-2?
November 26, 2025 at 9:23 PM
OK, many viruses infect multiple organs. I’m not saying COVID invented that. I mean the combination of factors, repeated whole-population reinfection, ongoing immune escape, high frequency, and multi-system effects. I don’t think we’ve really seen that particular pattern at this scale before.
November 26, 2025 at 9:15 PM
I’m not an immunologist, Marc, I’m coming at this as a mother of a kid with Long Covid who’s had to learn a lot the hard way.
November 26, 2025 at 9:13 PM
I think baseline in wastewater is a little higher?
November 26, 2025 at 9:11 PM
I am not defending a zero-covid stance. I don't agree with it. Speaking personally, Covid has changed my life in very real ways. My daughter got LC at age 16 and currently there are no tests, treatment etc.

I don't think minimal, evidence based mitigations constitutes not living life.
November 26, 2025 at 9:10 PM
I’m also not sure we’ve ever had a virus with this broad organ involvement infect entire populations repeatedly at this scale. Again, not an expert.
November 26, 2025 at 9:07 PM
It says in the tiny writing on the graph ‘percentage of participants in Infectieradar with a positive SARS-CoV-2 test’ which is why I’m a bit confused, that sounds like self-reported testing?

That's useful for trend shape, but doesn’t really tell us much about actual infection counts.
November 26, 2025 at 9:04 PM
I get what you’re saying...lots of infections can have long-term effects. We shouldn't ignore any of it.
November 26, 2025 at 9:00 PM
I mean ignore ongoing effects which are studied to exist.
November 26, 2025 at 8:54 PM
Is that graph from wastewater?

From what I understand wastewater data is robust.
November 26, 2025 at 8:52 PM
I don't understand the question, sorry.
November 26, 2025 at 8:50 PM
The authors themselves say it’s equivalent to roughly a one year delay, not an immune deficit. So I absolutely agree on the effect for that narrow age group, but I don’t think the paper shows that avoiding infection is harmful more broadly? Again happy to be corrected. I skimmed.
November 26, 2025 at 8:35 PM