Flintlock but scary or something dunno not feeling it this year
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stupid people think it's cool, smart people think it's a joke, also cool
I mean I don't necessarily expect you to believe me (dead account) but I got a hell of a lot of flak on Twitter from Corbynites criticising Labour for antisemitism under Corbyn.
November 18, 2025 at 3:45 PM
I mean I don't necessarily expect you to believe me (dead account) but I got a hell of a lot of flak on Twitter from Corbynites criticising Labour for antisemitism under Corbyn.
Whether Corbyn is individually antisemitic is something I'm happy to disagree on - I'd agree it's the case that antisemitism came in on his watch which is more important.
I just recognise that's because the LP is a racist party. His was merely the latest facet of that wider truth.
I just recognise that's because the LP is a racist party. His was merely the latest facet of that wider truth.
November 18, 2025 at 3:42 PM
Whether Corbyn is individually antisemitic is something I'm happy to disagree on - I'd agree it's the case that antisemitism came in on his watch which is more important.
I just recognise that's because the LP is a racist party. His was merely the latest facet of that wider truth.
I just recognise that's because the LP is a racist party. His was merely the latest facet of that wider truth.
I have no interest in defending Corbyn and have repeatedly mocked YP. I'm interested in not allowing it to lead into apologia for far right activists as innocent parties and my beef with those individuals massively predates Corbynism.
November 18, 2025 at 3:42 PM
I have no interest in defending Corbyn and have repeatedly mocked YP. I'm interested in not allowing it to lead into apologia for far right activists as innocent parties and my beef with those individuals massively predates Corbynism.
Mate, does this recent thread sound like someone with no criticisms of Corbynism?
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I'm just not willing to ignore far right affiliations because you find it convenient.
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I'm just not willing to ignore far right affiliations because you find it convenient.
1/ I'm fully aware this thread is about to make me enemies of other people on the left.
But the idea that the Corbynism movement had an issue with antisemitism was made out of whole cloth simply isn't true. A simple look at pro Corbyn social media at the time showed that.
But the idea that the Corbynism movement had an issue with antisemitism was made out of whole cloth simply isn't true. A simple look at pro Corbyn social media at the time showed that.
To be clear, if you think that 'objecting to someone who looks at this mural and goes "can't see the problem" is some kind of smear, congratulations, you are a racist!
November 18, 2025 at 3:25 PM
Mate, does this recent thread sound like someone with no criticisms of Corbynism?
bsky.app/profile/flin...
I'm just not willing to ignore far right affiliations because you find it convenient.
bsky.app/profile/flin...
I'm just not willing to ignore far right affiliations because you find it convenient.
The issues with Hoffman/Millet massively predate Corbynism (and some were reported in the JC back when they had blogs).
November 18, 2025 at 3:23 PM
The issues with Hoffman/Millet massively predate Corbynism (and some were reported in the JC back when they had blogs).
He said the individuals didn't understand "English Irony", not that British Jews didn't. The "English" was a fuckup, but it's still different than how it was portrayed.
November 18, 2025 at 3:22 PM
He said the individuals didn't understand "English Irony", not that British Jews didn't. The "English" was a fuckup, but it's still different than how it was portrayed.
It's relevant to whether it was a stupid/unacceptable comment made out of the blue, or whether it was a stupid/unacceptable comment made in response to deliberate far right provocation; I agree it was a stupid thing to say, I also think that the framing of it was dishonest. Two things can be true.
November 18, 2025 at 3:22 PM
It's relevant to whether it was a stupid/unacceptable comment made out of the blue, or whether it was a stupid/unacceptable comment made in response to deliberate far right provocation; I agree it was a stupid thing to say, I also think that the framing of it was dishonest. Two things can be true.
Although I think this is a useful illustration of my analysis that a) Corbynism had serious issues with antisemitism but b) many of the people arguing about it had an issue with Corbyn but not racists.
November 18, 2025 at 3:17 PM
Although I think this is a useful illustration of my analysis that a) Corbynism had serious issues with antisemitism but b) many of the people arguing about it had an issue with Corbyn but not racists.
A very serious view of racism, where being associated with Britain First is something that should go unmentioned.
November 18, 2025 at 3:14 PM
A very serious view of racism, where being associated with Britain First is something that should go unmentioned.
And I certainly think the sympathetic reporting of that showed quite how unserious about antiracism some elements of anti Corbynism were in terms of whom they were willling to politically ally with.
November 18, 2025 at 3:06 PM
And I certainly think the sympathetic reporting of that showed quite how unserious about antiracism some elements of anti Corbynism were in terms of whom they were willling to politically ally with.
Not acceptable. But "said something stupid in response to fascist heckling" is a different case to "said something stupid in response to innocent questioning". And I think it's fair to ask why the far right element went unreported.
November 18, 2025 at 3:01 PM
Not acceptable. But "said something stupid in response to fascist heckling" is a different case to "said something stupid in response to innocent questioning". And I think it's fair to ask why the far right element went unreported.
I don't blame people for not knowing this; it wasn't reported and was largely only noticed by people "in the weeds" enough to recognise the names.
November 18, 2025 at 2:56 PM
I don't blame people for not knowing this; it wasn't reported and was largely only noticed by people "in the weeds" enough to recognise the names.
and one of those has a conviction for threatening behaviour. As I said, dumb comment but it wasn't a case of Corbyn snapping back at innocent individuals politely asking questions, it was heckling from people with links to the EDL/Britain First.
November 18, 2025 at 2:56 PM
and one of those has a conviction for threatening behaviour. As I said, dumb comment but it wasn't a case of Corbyn snapping back at innocent individuals politely asking questions, it was heckling from people with links to the EDL/Britain First.
Also, the "she was an adult" argument is the same one used by predatory university professors who hit on students and the power differential is even more pronounced here.
November 18, 2025 at 2:45 PM
Also, the "she was an adult" argument is the same one used by predatory university professors who hit on students and the power differential is even more pronounced here.
It was illjudged, but the mural was worse, because the targets weren't Millet/Hoffman who that specific comment was made to. Here's a photo of Hoffman in happier times, marching next to Roberta Moore of the EDL's Jewish Division.
It was still dumb, because it gave members of the far right ammo.
It was still dumb, because it gave members of the far right ammo.
November 18, 2025 at 2:31 PM
It was illjudged, but the mural was worse, because the targets weren't Millet/Hoffman who that specific comment was made to. Here's a photo of Hoffman in happier times, marching next to Roberta Moore of the EDL's Jewish Division.
It was still dumb, because it gave members of the far right ammo.
It was still dumb, because it gave members of the far right ammo.
13/ This wasn't the only issue by any means. Yes, plotting and undermining by the Labour Right was a massive factor. But if we're going to learn from the loss we need to look at this holistically. We need to understand all of what went wrong, not just the parts that are comfortable to address.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
13/ This wasn't the only issue by any means. Yes, plotting and undermining by the Labour Right was a massive factor. But if we're going to learn from the loss we need to look at this holistically. We need to understand all of what went wrong, not just the parts that are comfortable to address.
12/ And there is absolutely a strong argument that despite the issues a Corbyn government would be far better than what we have now and was worth supporting on those grounds.
But Corbynism failed.
But Corbynism failed.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
12/ And there is absolutely a strong argument that despite the issues a Corbyn government would be far better than what we have now and was worth supporting on those grounds.
But Corbynism failed.
But Corbynism failed.
11/ It's what both the Forde Report and the leaked Labour internal report actually say if people actually read them rather than merely waving their existence round as some kind of validation.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
11/ It's what both the Forde Report and the leaked Labour internal report actually say if people actually read them rather than merely waving their existence round as some kind of validation.
10/ I already see them as my political enemy and wish to destroy them. I'd like to believe that the left is and can do better.
And none of this is or at least should be that controversial. What I'm saying here (a real issue was cynically weaponised) isn't a massive stretch.
And none of this is or at least should be that controversial. What I'm saying here (a real issue was cynically weaponised) isn't a massive stretch.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
10/ I already see them as my political enemy and wish to destroy them. I'd like to believe that the left is and can do better.
And none of this is or at least should be that controversial. What I'm saying here (a real issue was cynically weaponised) isn't a massive stretch.
And none of this is or at least should be that controversial. What I'm saying here (a real issue was cynically weaponised) isn't a massive stretch.
9/ I was blocked on Twitter by the Center for Countering Digital Hate and Stop Funding Fake News for repeatedly asking them questions about The Sun and the Daily Mail and specifically Labour MPs writing for those papers.
The right are bad and hypocritical. I'm already convinced.
The right are bad and hypocritical. I'm already convinced.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
9/ I was blocked on Twitter by the Center for Countering Digital Hate and Stop Funding Fake News for repeatedly asking them questions about The Sun and the Daily Mail and specifically Labour MPs writing for those papers.
The right are bad and hypocritical. I'm already convinced.
The right are bad and hypocritical. I'm already convinced.
8/ It failed because there as nothing to it but hot air. That isn't the case here.
And yes, Starmer and the Labour Party are more racist now. And yes, there are absolutely serious double standards here.
And yes, Starmer and the Labour Party are more racist now. And yes, there are absolutely serious double standards here.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
8/ It failed because there as nothing to it but hot air. That isn't the case here.
And yes, Starmer and the Labour Party are more racist now. And yes, there are absolutely serious double standards here.
And yes, Starmer and the Labour Party are more racist now. And yes, there are absolutely serious double standards here.
7/ The "Corbyn was a Red Action associate" lasted three days, up until the point that people familiar with who Red Action are started asking difficult questions like "why would Corbyn be friendly with a group openly contemptuous of the Labour Party?"
Then the issue was magically dropped over night.
Then the issue was magically dropped over night.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
7/ The "Corbyn was a Red Action associate" lasted three days, up until the point that people familiar with who Red Action are started asking difficult questions like "why would Corbyn be friendly with a group openly contemptuous of the Labour Party?"
Then the issue was magically dropped over night.
Then the issue was magically dropped over night.
6/ Apparently "socialist" bosses aren't always any more pleasant to work for.
Does any of this mean the issue wasn't cynically weaponised by people who had no interest and were often racists themselves?
Absolutely not. That is 100% the case. They also tried to weaponise other issues.
Does any of this mean the issue wasn't cynically weaponised by people who had no interest and were often racists themselves?
Absolutely not. That is 100% the case. They also tried to weaponise other issues.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
6/ Apparently "socialist" bosses aren't always any more pleasant to work for.
Does any of this mean the issue wasn't cynically weaponised by people who had no interest and were often racists themselves?
Absolutely not. That is 100% the case. They also tried to weaponise other issues.
Does any of this mean the issue wasn't cynically weaponised by people who had no interest and were often racists themselves?
Absolutely not. That is 100% the case. They also tried to weaponise other issues.
5/ And there were loud pro Corbynist voices with *interesting* political pasts. Heading up the Canary at that time was Kerry-Ann Mendoza, a previous David Icke associate before they fell out over money. She's no longer with the Canary after a worker's revolt.
November 18, 2025 at 2:19 PM
5/ And there were loud pro Corbynist voices with *interesting* political pasts. Heading up the Canary at that time was Kerry-Ann Mendoza, a previous David Icke associate before they fell out over money. She's no longer with the Canary after a worker's revolt.