Oh so people who were probably into it 20 years ago? That makes sense.

How old is the crowd, generally?

And it looks like there was a bridge too far for Guilbeaut, at least.

Sure but Carney's caucus & Cabinet contain many of the same people who were all in on e.g. a carbon tax, plastics bans, green incentives, 'feminist foreign policy' and a pharmacare program under Trudeau, things Carney has been stepping away from. They're not mostly MPs from the Chrétien/Martin days.

Thanks for alerting me to this! (I voted for NIN, though, sorry.)

That album was great, my favourite of that year iirc. I saw them on the tour, which was also incredible.

I think everyone did tbh. Aiui some Premiers didn't want the Charter at all and Chrétien/Trudeau reluctantly made the concession to get it done. Not worth it (not least because Quebec didn't sign on anyway), which they regretted later.

There's always the argument that e.g. tonality (in the broad sense) is more fundamentally necessary for the human brain, which is the one I want to resist most.

2) the time-based nature of music may demand a higher level of commitment/buy-in from the audience (need to sit for an hour, can't 'look away')

3) there may simply be different expectations wrt music and visual art (people go to a gallery to pay attention but will throw on music in the bkgd)

I used to have students do an oral debate on this in my old life, w/ several readings (including Stubbs); hard to find a definitive reason, tho there are many factors: 1) even most common practice instrumental music is non-representational so maybe this is actually 2 levels of abstraction?

Is it any good? I don't think I've heard a tune from it. More of a straightforward hard rock album aiui?

Well, mash-ups and hyperpop are a matter of taste; I question giving critics any significant credit for the producers' creativity. I also have issues with DAMN.'s Pulitzer win (and they never awarded a pop/rap album again anyway). Inclusivity is obv good but there were also broader social trends.

None of the bad, all of the good

And yet at the same time, poptimism somehow DOES get all the credit for a slew of positive (iho) social changes, from greater inclusivity in media coverage and awards recognition to musicians making mash-ups and hyperpop to the greater number of female editors...

I only learned this year what "out on the tiles" means.

I listened to both today!

A striking bit in the memoir where he had to reckon with Soundgarden, seeing their first gig at CBGB's and thinking they were "technically brilliant" but "regurgitating" music that "bands like ours sought to dismantle" and then acknowledges they "would go on to create heavy, beautiful hits".

Fugazi more like Rush imo