Thanks Eleni. You’ve definitely made me think about the point I was making and how I can make it differently. I really appreciate your feedback.

… as individual, unique human beings. I maybe didn’t explain that very well in the podcast but I wouldn’t be comfortable with anyone being referred to as a ‘user’.

Hi Eleni, thanks for your message. The words we use shape how we see each other and see the world and the point I was trying to make is that ‘user’ - as with all labels - invites assumptions and judgments about people and about relationships and can prevent us from seeing and understanding people…

Thank you Eleni 🩷

Thanks for inviting me! 💜

Thank you! 🩷

Thank you Phyl.. brilliant photos 😍

Amazing - thank you so much Phyl 🩷