Tbh I'm getting the impression American education isn't very good amd that's why people are turning out so poorly able to think

It's so disturbing how things that used to be considered common sense across the political spectrum (vaccines) are now considered controversial by half the country.

And she blocked. What an angry person lol

Also assuming US news can legally lie, how come making that illegal hasn't been more of a priority?

I imagine folks will say 1st amendment but 1st amendment covers opinion, no? Rather than presenting things as fact?

Or in America do news organisations have the same rights as individual citizens?

Bearing this in mind, how can Fox News just state things like "Democrats bring immigrants here to make them voters."

Like how is it legal to lie in the news? In the UK, you can't do that. That's why news bias is more sneaky, more to do with suggestion or implied meaning.

Can US news legally lie?

So when queer film fans defend someone who has 0 interest in our actual ability to survive and indeed is helping the forces that want us dead.......

That is disturbing to me.

It's disturbing that you're duped so easily

That you don't understand most bigotry is just APATHY (Fiennes) not hate (JKR)

If Ralph Fiennes was genuinely affected by the content of Conclave, he would be defending the rights of intersex, trans folk, POC etc

But he isn't

He is only concerned with these groups as a CURIOSITY

That is what west end theatre culture IS & what folks like me have been trying to change 4 YEARS

And this is something gen z find impossible to grasp.

They see an interview where Fiennes makes some generic statement about tolerance and they think he's defending intersex people. NO.

That's just the type of generic crap actors of his age always say to audiences about their acting craft.

This is something you would understand if you'd spent extended time talking to British actors of a certain generation.

They have a big talk about empathy but it is performative (literally). It does not translate to action in the real world.

Fiennes' generation of actors are deeply apolitical.

This is something millennial & gen z fans seem to find impossible to understand

To us, our EMPATHY and our understanding of ART, translates directly to action, to activism, politics, community building etc

For Fiennes, it is not so direct. It's INTERESTING for him but he DOESN'T CARE.

1 of the big claims folks are making is that because Conclave is trying to be a progressive film for minorities, they say Fiennes himself is progressive on minorities

Fiennes is of a generation of actors who consider minorities THEORETICALLY interesting but don't practice activism to help them

But also a lot of people are too stupid to educate and you shouldn't have to do it individually for every person.

Then if the conversation does actually come up you have more weight to shut them down, if they say something bad, you have more ability to be mad or stern and because they've not seen you like that before it's taken more seriously.

Films don't have to be leftist necessarily in my opinion to be good or interesting but I don't think this film had a real point of view, nor did it ask interesting enough questions about gender, misogyny or patriarchy

The questions it did ask started strong, but were abandoned as the film continued

How would that affect his faith?or if Cardinal Racist had in fact won, would Lawrence have stayed in the Church?

All questions much more interesting than what we actually got.

A vague feel good message on a technicality that doesn't seem to be for any specific demographic.

The portrayal of fighting liberal vs conservative factions in the Church was interesting but not explored enough.

It would have been better honestly to see Lawrence tested by being a good man in an evil institution. Perhaps the liberal candidate IS homophobic amd DOES win & will he accept that?