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Cahir O'Kane @cahirokane.bsky.social · 8h

Yes, it still matters. Even if we can no longer avoid Covid entirely, rather once every few years than a couple of times a year, and even more so to protect vulnerable individuals.

Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 9h

Feeling unwell?

If you have COVID symptoms, TEST
If you test positive, ISOLATE
If you can’t test, MASK

Protect yourself and others (especially high-risk people) - it still matters!

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 9h

Feeling unwell?

If you have COVID symptoms, TEST
If you test positive, ISOLATE
If you can’t test, MASK

Protect yourself and others (especially high-risk people) - it still matters!

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 4h

Flu vaccines are ~10x cheaper...

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 5h

This isn't aimed at you, but the general population (who don't usually test or mask).

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 9h

Feeling unwell?

If you have COVID symptoms, TEST
If you test positive, ISOLATE
If you can’t test, MASK

Protect yourself and others (especially high-risk people) - it still matters!

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 20h

Thank you Liz! x

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Liz Meddings @lzmddings.bsky.social · 20h

I’ve written to my MP. Please consider writing to yours to extend the covid 19 booster to all who get the flu vaccine, as per previous years.

Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Thank you for your urgent support! 🙏

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Labour MPs Call for Covid Vaccine Access for Clinically Vulnerable People

After months of tireless campaigning, writing to MPs, briefing the media, and speaking up at the UK Covid Inquiry - our community may finally be seeing progress.We have received confirmation that some...

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

⚠️Prof @chrischirp.bsky.social Pagel reports on "significant Covid wave" in her substack
(🔗 on nxt)

"The last time we had more recorded Covid hospitalisations was two years ago, and this wave isn’t over yet."

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Not everyone can afford to, and do the pharmacies even hold enough stocks for 13 million? (unlikely)

This is a self-inflicted (by govt), avoidable catastrophy. We will pay the price.

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Amazing! 🤞🤞

Thank you 💕

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Please write to your MP!

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Yes, exactly. It is nonsensical...

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Thank you Karrie! It does make a difference 🙏💕

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Thank you for your urgent support! 🙏

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www.clinicallyvulnerable.org/post/labour-...

Labour MPs Call for Covid Vaccine Access for Clinically Vulnerable People

After months of tireless campaigning, writing to MPs, briefing the media, and speaking up at the UK Covid Inquiry - our community may finally be seeing progress.We have received confirmation that some...

www.clinicallyvulnerable.org

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

Please read our blog and email your MP to #KeepCovidBoosters

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christinapagel.substack.com/p/england-is...

England is now experiencing a significant Covid wave, after 10 months of relative quiet

The latest Covid situation in England and a look at where NHS services are as we head into winter

christinapagel.substack.com

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 1d

⚠️Prof @chrischirp.bsky.social Pagel reports on "significant Covid wave" in her substack
(🔗 on nxt)

"The last time we had more recorded Covid hospitalisations was two years ago, and this wave isn’t over yet."

1/ #KeepCovidBoosters

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 2d

Hospitals are bringing masks back because Covid never left!

But we:

❌ Ignore Covid risks
❌ Don’t clean the air
❌ Deny vaccines to most Clinically Vulnerable
❌ Treat masking as “personal choice” (even HCWs)

It isn’t Living with Covid
It feels like neglect
#KeepCovidBoosters

We have re-introduced mask wearing in some areas

Please wear a mask where you see this poster

Thank you

"Masks remain available for patients, visitors and staff. Please wear a mask in this area"

MHS
The Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital NHS Trust

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 2d

Hospitals are bringing masks back because Covid never left!

But we:

❌ Ignore Covid risks
❌ Don’t clean the air
❌ Deny vaccines to most Clinically Vulnerable
❌ Treat masking as “personal choice” (even HCWs)

It isn’t Living with Covid
It feels like neglect
#KeepCovidBoosters

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

"...if we... are comfortable with that... from the children's health perspective... that could mean tolerating a high rate of prevalence within children, does that mean there is a stronger argument for masks ... to afford... protection to adults they may be interacting with?"

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The other part of that is of course that if we are saying that we are comfortable with that approach from the children's health perspective, given that could mean tolerating a high rate of prevalence within children, does that mean there is a stronger argument for masks in order to afford a greater degree of protection to adults they may be interacting with?

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

"...we seem to be taking decisions based on a view that Covid is not a serious risk to children... and given that we no longer ask those at highest risk to completely shield ... FM queried whether this risks a counterproductive message i.e. that less care is necessary..."

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Hi Orlando,

Thanks for the paper. However, FM is concerned that we seem to be taking decisions based on a view that Covid is not a serious risk to children, when there still seems to be a lot of scientific disagreement on risks of e.g. long Covid, and possibly especially from Delta. Additionally, and given that we no longer ask those at highest risk to completely shield and so consequences are less severe, FM queried whether this risks a counterproductive message i.e. that less care is necessary, that might outweighs the benefits?

Grateful for official's view on the above points.

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

Now, for the eagle-eyed Clinically Vulnerable community...

Let's look at what was said in more detail, about us:

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Hi NR

I think the point FM was making was more about the package for under 12s in the round, in that we are not really proposing much in the way of protection for this cohort

they won't be vaccinated (as things currently stand)

when they go back to school they won't be required to self-isolate

There's no physical distance requirements

- they aren't counted as part of the gathering rules

It's not necessarily about whether they should wear face masks, it's about whether there should be something retained for children, and if so what that should be

If nothing, we are saying that we will let the virus run unchecked amongst children. So the questions is - are we confident about the health risks of that approach? It could be that the answer is yes, that the harm 3 impacts of the measures is greater than the Harm 1 risks, we may just need to "show our working".

Are we saying there is insufficient evidence to draw conclusions on long covid for children so far, but early indications is that only a small number are affected? If we don't have the evidence would there be benefit to taking a cautious approach? This of course ties back to weighing the harm 1 risks against the broader developmental harms of protective measures

The other part of that is of course that if we are saying that we are comfortable with that approach from the children's health perspective, given that could mean tolerating a high rate of prevalence within children, does that mean there is a stronger argument for masks in order to afford a greater degree of protection to adults they may be interacting with?

I think FM is just looking for reassurance that we have thought all this through.

I've added NR for a DCAF perspective - I'd welcome your input here

Copying Andy and Sam for awareness

Mandy

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

He doesn't agree with the email regarding the risks for removing NPIs for all children under 12 left a significant number of children at risk of developing Long Covid.

He said steps were taken to protect children's health.

But he is concerned about the experiences of LC.

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

First Minister of Scotland (former Education Minister), John Swinney

Answered questions on @LCKScotland

But adjacent issues on Clinically Vulnerable families are highlighted too.

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

AW "Have COSLA considered any other measures, as part of this planning, to avoid airborne spread - for example mechanical ventilation in school buildings?"

ND "It wouldn't be for COSLA..."

"It is certainly something we could think about and consider in the round...."

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Clinically Vulnerable Families 💙💜💗 @cvcev.bsky.social · 3d

ND "More and more of our settings are working towards having both indoor learning and outdoor learning spaces."

AW "So the guidance would be more about general principles than specific measures."

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