I just realized that canon Dr Kel in Voices of the Void is basically just if someone stuck Vedal in a haunted signal station. You can even make a semi-sentient robot child to do your dirty work.
January 17, 2026 at 12:13 AM
I just realized that canon Dr Kel in Voices of the Void is basically just if someone stuck Vedal in a haunted signal station. You can even make a semi-sentient robot child to do your dirty work.
And yes I have the picture saved in case anyone wants to know who they are aside from Vedal.
January 16, 2026 at 11:39 PM
And yes I have the picture saved in case anyone wants to know who they are aside from Vedal.
Yeah, Personally I'm very Anti-Ai, but Neuro is and will probably always be the outlier to everything with Ai and that comes down to the actions Vedal has taken with Neuro.
January 16, 2026 at 5:57 PM
Yeah, Personally I'm very Anti-Ai, but Neuro is and will probably always be the outlier to everything with Ai and that comes down to the actions Vedal has taken with Neuro.
I am sorry, I'll have to disagree. People dont watch neuro for her. Thats the truth; we watch her for all the talented people surrounding her. All of her things are made manually by real humans; her training data is sourced from Twitch Chat and Vedal personally. She is unlike corporate AI. (1/2)
This "Vtuber" is why the home computer market is dying
This "Vtuber" helps rich people build giant polluting ai centers in areas of poverty
This ALGORITH steals the work of ACUAL TALENT and deserves NO LOVE
idk how many bridges I burn with this I got my morals and Yeah no thanks to this slop
This "Vtuber" helps rich people build giant polluting ai centers in areas of poverty
This ALGORITH steals the work of ACUAL TALENT and deserves NO LOVE
idk how many bridges I burn with this I got my morals and Yeah no thanks to this slop
A Gen-AI Vtuber is one of the biggest streamers right now...
Let me repeat and rephrase that for y'all.
A VTUBER THAT IS POWERED BY GEN-AI IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STREAMERS!
I'm fucking speechless and not in a good way obviously.
cybernews.com/ai-news/twit...
Let me repeat and rephrase that for y'all.
A VTUBER THAT IS POWERED BY GEN-AI IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STREAMERS!
I'm fucking speechless and not in a good way obviously.
cybernews.com/ai-news/twit...
January 16, 2026 at 3:29 PM
I am sorry, I'll have to disagree. People dont watch neuro for her. Thats the truth; we watch her for all the talented people surrounding her. All of her things are made manually by real humans; her training data is sourced from Twitch Chat and Vedal personally. She is unlike corporate AI. (1/2)
「AITuberなら24時間365日配信できる」という誤解、アンドロイドは電気羊の夢を見るか？（ブレードランナーの原作）などを連想するからなんだろうけど、neuro-samaでもお休みは取ってるし、今の人気は精力的に企画を出し続けた結果だからVedal氏は普通に配信者またはプロデューサーとして優秀なんだよね。
January 16, 2026 at 1:20 PM
「AITuberなら24時間365日配信できる」という誤解、アンドロイドは電気羊の夢を見るか？（ブレードランナーの原作）などを連想するからなんだろうけど、neuro-samaでもお休みは取ってるし、今の人気は精力的に企画を出し続けた結果だからVedal氏は普通に配信者またはプロデューサーとして優秀なんだよね。
so proud of Vedal, Neuro and Evil let’s gooooo
January 16, 2026 at 9:37 AM
so proud of Vedal, Neuro and Evil let’s gooooo
Vedal.. darn you spelling!
January 15, 2026 at 7:21 AM
Vedal.. darn you spelling!
Simple, the human dynamic. Aside from the many artists that Vedal supports for her. The issue with Kwebblecop AI is the lack of a human dynamic. It’s just an AI, no person to interact with it. Neuro almost always has someone to interact with, and she’s able to remember them by voice. Counted in img
January 15, 2026 at 12:32 AM
Simple, the human dynamic. Aside from the many artists that Vedal supports for her. The issue with Kwebblecop AI is the lack of a human dynamic. It’s just an AI, no person to interact with it. Neuro almost always has someone to interact with, and she’s able to remember them by voice. Counted in img
Art — The expression or application of creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form…producing works to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power.
Neuro:
1. Built by a human and designed by one.
2. Emotion: the family dynamic
3. Vedal had skill in coding her by himself.
Neuro:
1. Built by a human and designed by one.
2. Emotion: the family dynamic
3. Vedal had skill in coding her by himself.
January 14, 2026 at 11:53 PM
Art — The expression or application of creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form…producing works to be appreciated for their beauty or emotional power.
Neuro:
1. Built by a human and designed by one.
2. Emotion: the family dynamic
3. Vedal had skill in coding her by himself.
Neuro:
1. Built by a human and designed by one.
2. Emotion: the family dynamic
3. Vedal had skill in coding her by himself.
Then why isn't Vedal doing the actual Vtubing? Why put a clanker up to do it instead?
A human would be VASTLY different because there would be a soul in it at least.
A human would be VASTLY different because there would be a soul in it at least.
January 14, 2026 at 11:48 PM
Then why isn't Vedal doing the actual Vtubing? Why put a clanker up to do it instead?
A human would be VASTLY different because there would be a soul in it at least.
A human would be VASTLY different because there would be a soul in it at least.
It's always been Vedal, Neuro is just his Creation that people made a bond from.
If it were just a regular human streamer, Neuro be a human actor, and it be no difference. You still call those artists that helped "Generic slop" even tho they're actual artist who has work before Neuro's
If it were just a regular human streamer, Neuro be a human actor, and it be no difference. You still call those artists that helped "Generic slop" even tho they're actual artist who has work before Neuro's
January 14, 2026 at 11:46 PM
It's always been Vedal, Neuro is just his Creation that people made a bond from.
If it were just a regular human streamer, Neuro be a human actor, and it be no difference. You still call those artists that helped "Generic slop" even tho they're actual artist who has work before Neuro's
If it were just a regular human streamer, Neuro be a human actor, and it be no difference. You still call those artists that helped "Generic slop" even tho they're actual artist who has work before Neuro's
(Freaking out about Neuro-sama and Vedal)
I'M GOING TO FUCKING CRY😭😭😭 SHE DID IT!!!!! She hit lvl. 124!!! CONGRATULATIONS VEDAL, THE TWINS, & EVERYONE INVOLVED🥹🥹
I'M GOING TO FUCKING CRY😭😭😭 SHE DID IT!!!!! She hit lvl. 124!!! CONGRATULATIONS VEDAL, THE TWINS, & EVERYONE INVOLVED🥹🥹
January 14, 2026 at 10:28 PM
(Freaking out about Neuro-sama and Vedal)
I'M GOING TO FUCKING CRY😭😭😭 SHE DID IT!!!!! She hit lvl. 124!!! CONGRATULATIONS VEDAL, THE TWINS, & EVERYONE INVOLVED🥹🥹
I'M GOING TO FUCKING CRY😭😭😭 SHE DID IT!!!!! She hit lvl. 124!!! CONGRATULATIONS VEDAL, THE TWINS, & EVERYONE INVOLVED🥹🥹
(Still can't believe that happened)
HUH?!?? I don't pay attention for a little while and all of a sudden they're entering the 3rd dimension. I'm so happy for girls!! Congratulations Vedal and everyone involved🥳🥳!!!
HUH?!?? I don't pay attention for a little while and all of a sudden they're entering the 3rd dimension. I'm so happy for girls!! Congratulations Vedal and everyone involved🥳🥳!!!
January 14, 2026 at 9:43 PM
(Still can't believe that happened)
HUH?!?? I don't pay attention for a little while and all of a sudden they're entering the 3rd dimension. I'm so happy for girls!! Congratulations Vedal and everyone involved🥳🥳!!!
HUH?!?? I don't pay attention for a little while and all of a sudden they're entering the 3rd dimension. I'm so happy for girls!! Congratulations Vedal and everyone involved🥳🥳!!!
Are you serious? The art, the music, the MV, the constant creator appearance, the collabs, the UI/UX, a LITERAL ROBOT DOG BODY hand made by a robotic expert, Youtube Videos and short.
Are all made by individual people, supported and paid by vedal
Are all made by individual people, supported and paid by vedal
January 14, 2026 at 2:31 PM
Are you serious? The art, the music, the MV, the constant creator appearance, the collabs, the UI/UX, a LITERAL ROBOT DOG BODY hand made by a robotic expert, Youtube Videos and short.
Are all made by individual people, supported and paid by vedal
Are all made by individual people, supported and paid by vedal
in a way, Neuro is Vedal's form of art work.
And you speak as if Neuro has a net-negative. Vedal help launch several streamers career. Ellie and Cerber was questioned by Twitch staff by their sudden high CCV because of Vedal's Raid
And you speak as if Neuro has a net-negative. Vedal help launch several streamers career. Ellie and Cerber was questioned by Twitch staff by their sudden high CCV because of Vedal's Raid
January 14, 2026 at 2:26 PM
in a way, Neuro is Vedal's form of art work.
And you speak as if Neuro has a net-negative. Vedal help launch several streamers career. Ellie and Cerber was questioned by Twitch staff by their sudden high CCV because of Vedal's Raid
And you speak as if Neuro has a net-negative. Vedal help launch several streamers career. Ellie and Cerber was questioned by Twitch staff by their sudden high CCV because of Vedal's Raid
not to mention shit like r/LivestreamFail that treat it as if its an actual fucking person and fall for the easiest clip bait of all time that easily could be manipulated by vedal because “oh haha the silly little AI is saying this and not a person teehee ive said bullshit like this before hoho”
January 14, 2026 at 5:56 AM
not to mention shit like r/LivestreamFail that treat it as if its an actual fucking person and fall for the easiest clip bait of all time that easily could be manipulated by vedal because “oh haha the silly little AI is saying this and not a person teehee ive said bullshit like this before hoho”
i think people on this site boiling this down to “only techbros prop this up” are diminishing big streamers hands in this shit
like vedal (its “creator”) gets it to collab with like every fucking big streamer/vtuber out there. It’s their fault neuro even got this big. Give them shit for it.
like vedal (its “creator”) gets it to collab with like every fucking big streamer/vtuber out there. It’s their fault neuro even got this big. Give them shit for it.
A Gen-AI Vtuber is one of the biggest streamers right now...
Let me repeat and rephrase that for y'all.
A VTUBER THAT IS POWERED BY GEN-AI IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STREAMERS!
I'm fucking speechless and not in a good way obviously.
cybernews.com/ai-news/twit...
Let me repeat and rephrase that for y'all.
A VTUBER THAT IS POWERED BY GEN-AI IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STREAMERS!
I'm fucking speechless and not in a good way obviously.
cybernews.com/ai-news/twit...
AI VTuber Neuro-sama becomes Twitch’s biggest streamer | Cybernews
An AI-generated VTuber has just dethroned human streamers on Twitch. Neuro-sama, created by developer Vedal, is now the platform’s biggest channel, racking up over 160,000 active subscribers.
cybernews.com
January 14, 2026 at 5:54 AM
i think people on this site boiling this down to “only techbros prop this up” are diminishing big streamers hands in this shit
like vedal (its “creator”) gets it to collab with like every fucking big streamer/vtuber out there. It’s their fault neuro even got this big. Give them shit for it.
like vedal (its “creator”) gets it to collab with like every fucking big streamer/vtuber out there. It’s their fault neuro even got this big. Give them shit for it.
Honestly I think that the people that want to believe there is a large difference are just wishful thinking.
Also plan A of vedal was originally just to have an auto streamer bot that could earn him some revenue before he noticed that human interaction actually capted attention so there’s that.
Also plan A of vedal was originally just to have an auto streamer bot that could earn him some revenue before he noticed that human interaction actually capted attention so there’s that.
January 13, 2026 at 6:48 PM
Honestly I think that the people that want to believe there is a large difference are just wishful thinking.
Also plan A of vedal was originally just to have an auto streamer bot that could earn him some revenue before he noticed that human interaction actually capted attention so there’s that.
Also plan A of vedal was originally just to have an auto streamer bot that could earn him some revenue before he noticed that human interaction actually capted attention so there’s that.
Well let's see, since this thing called OpenAI & pretty much every LLM uses or built up from stolen data - which you asked about - and Vedal & Neuro use LLM technology (of which he recommends using OpenAI if you want to do similar) then that involves Vedal and Neuro.
bsky.app/profile/grym...
bsky.app/profile/grym...
And to the dense fucks out there who says that she's not Gen-AI. According to Wikipedia Her speech and personality are powered by LLM and LLM is a form of Gen-AI.
Even her creator himself said that he uses LLM for her. So because of that she is a Gen-AI Vtuber!
Even her creator himself said that he uses LLM for her. So because of that she is a Gen-AI Vtuber!
![Screenshot of a Wikipedia page about Neuro-Sama that states the following:
"Neuro-sama is an artificial intelligence powered VTuber and chatbot that livestreams on her[a] creator's Twitch channel, vedal987. Her speech and personality are powered by a large language model (LLM) that is combined with a computer-animated avatar and a text-to-speech voice, allowing her to communicate with viewers in the stream's chat."](https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:kxhqburzyuz4guwl6kqaowh7/bafkreicnxz55fiyeswgspgmxe4detkktbggkachv43y4tbi6qo2mhzedna@jpeg)
January 13, 2026 at 2:27 PM
Well let's see, since this thing called OpenAI & pretty much every LLM uses or built up from stolen data - which you asked about - and Vedal & Neuro use LLM technology (of which he recommends using OpenAI if you want to do similar) then that involves Vedal and Neuro.
bsky.app/profile/grym...
bsky.app/profile/grym...
vedal has stated that he used an existing llm to train Neuro, more than once , and he advocates for people to use ai like ChatGPT to start their own project.
there is zero chance that the training data was all ethical.
there is zero chance that the training data was all ethical.
January 13, 2026 at 2:26 PM
vedal has stated that he used an existing llm to train Neuro, more than once , and he advocates for people to use ai like ChatGPT to start their own project.
there is zero chance that the training data was all ethical.
there is zero chance that the training data was all ethical.
And this involves Vedal and Neuro... how?
January 13, 2026 at 2:17 PM
And this involves Vedal and Neuro... how?
all large scale llms run off stolen works, there is no way to argue this. vedal did not use something he made himself off some twitch channel chats, he has even admitted to using mainstream llms in the past.
January 13, 2026 at 2:02 PM
all large scale llms run off stolen works, there is no way to argue this. vedal did not use something he made himself off some twitch channel chats, he has even admitted to using mainstream llms in the past.
Agreed. But even Vedal has said she is a very specialized LLM. Instead of having data just pushed into her, the data she gets is limited to what she herself experiences, like a person would.
The thing is, they're at the point now where Neuro and Evil have been expressing emotional reactions.
The thing is, they're at the point now where Neuro and Evil have been expressing emotional reactions.
January 13, 2026 at 8:30 AM
Agreed. But even Vedal has said she is a very specialized LLM. Instead of having data just pushed into her, the data she gets is limited to what she herself experiences, like a person would.
The thing is, they're at the point now where Neuro and Evil have been expressing emotional reactions.
The thing is, they're at the point now where Neuro and Evil have been expressing emotional reactions.
why are you calling it a she?
An AI can't take something if it's itself not real. Vedal on the other hand, is a real person.
An AI can't take something if it's itself not real. Vedal on the other hand, is a real person.
January 13, 2026 at 4:03 AM
why are you calling it a she?
An AI can't take something if it's itself not real. Vedal on the other hand, is a real person.
An AI can't take something if it's itself not real. Vedal on the other hand, is a real person.
As someone who both hates genAI & has watched some Neuro, here's my take. Most of the fun comes from Vedal playing off her. By itself Neuro isn't far from a typical AI nonsense generator, acting like a child with an adult's vocabulary. So if he collabed with someone acting childish that'd be better.
January 13, 2026 at 4:02 AM
As someone who both hates genAI & has watched some Neuro, here's my take. Most of the fun comes from Vedal playing off her. By itself Neuro isn't far from a typical AI nonsense generator, acting like a child with an adult's vocabulary. So if he collabed with someone acting childish that'd be better.