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Marked as rude because I didn’t acquiesce to “centrist” and pro-genocide pile-ons.
typical thatcher supporter response.
December 2, 2025 at 4:13 PM
typical thatcher supporter response.
If your only argument is try and pretend I’ve said something I didn’t say, while being unable to actually justify current govt economic policy, it shows what a dishonest cunt you are.
Are data centres just media rumours too? Couldn’t answer that one either could you? clown show.
Are data centres just media rumours too? Couldn’t answer that one either could you? clown show.
December 2, 2025 at 4:12 PM
If your only argument is try and pretend I’ve said something I didn’t say, while being unable to actually justify current govt economic policy, it shows what a dishonest cunt you are.
Are data centres just media rumours too? Couldn’t answer that one either could you? clown show.
Are data centres just media rumours too? Couldn’t answer that one either could you? clown show.
“Media rumours.”
You mean Labour leaking policies to test the waters of public opinion like they’ve been doing all year? But, sure, rumours.
Show me where I said that.
You’re a lying dogmatist who has been dragged. Get an education, and a spine.
You mean Labour leaking policies to test the waters of public opinion like they’ve been doing all year? But, sure, rumours.
Show me where I said that.
You’re a lying dogmatist who has been dragged. Get an education, and a spine.
December 2, 2025 at 4:10 PM
“Media rumours.”
You mean Labour leaking policies to test the waters of public opinion like they’ve been doing all year? But, sure, rumours.
Show me where I said that.
You’re a lying dogmatist who has been dragged. Get an education, and a spine.
You mean Labour leaking policies to test the waters of public opinion like they’ve been doing all year? But, sure, rumours.
Show me where I said that.
You’re a lying dogmatist who has been dragged. Get an education, and a spine.
You’re not. I don’t find scum who pretend that current govt policy is irrelevant to a conversation about current govt policy.
How thick are you?
How thick are you?
December 2, 2025 at 4:07 PM
You’re not. I don’t find scum who pretend that current govt policy is irrelevant to a conversation about current govt policy.
How thick are you?
How thick are you?
When?
Water? Do people have to literally go bankrupt.
Energy? they’re still subsidising fossil fuels.
You won’t engage with policy, just the fantasy you project.
Water? Do people have to literally go bankrupt.
Energy? they’re still subsidising fossil fuels.
You won’t engage with policy, just the fantasy you project.
December 2, 2025 at 4:06 PM
When?
Water? Do people have to literally go bankrupt.
Energy? they’re still subsidising fossil fuels.
You won’t engage with policy, just the fantasy you project.
Water? Do people have to literally go bankrupt.
Energy? they’re still subsidising fossil fuels.
You won’t engage with policy, just the fantasy you project.
Because expanding PFI is a current govt policy you fuckwit.
You’re asserting that they will be successful at regenerating the economy by reimplementing failed policies? Seriously.
You’re asserting that they will be successful at regenerating the economy by reimplementing failed policies? Seriously.
December 2, 2025 at 4:05 PM
Because expanding PFI is a current govt policy you fuckwit.
You’re asserting that they will be successful at regenerating the economy by reimplementing failed policies? Seriously.
You’re asserting that they will be successful at regenerating the economy by reimplementing failed policies? Seriously.
You said I’m mistaking wanting to increase tax on wealthy individuals with trickle down economics. Where did I say that? I didn’t. I was talking about the entire economic program kowtowing to corporations and the wealthy, of which the Venn diagram of interests is practically a perfect circle.
December 2, 2025 at 4:04 PM
You said I’m mistaking wanting to increase tax on wealthy individuals with trickle down economics. Where did I say that? I didn’t. I was talking about the entire economic program kowtowing to corporations and the wealthy, of which the Venn diagram of interests is practically a perfect circle.
Public control through kowtowing to private equity. Brilliant.
You still can’t answer on PFI. Vapid and spineless.
You still can’t answer on PFI. Vapid and spineless.
December 2, 2025 at 4:02 PM
Public control through kowtowing to private equity. Brilliant.
You still can’t answer on PFI. Vapid and spineless.
You still can’t answer on PFI. Vapid and spineless.
And the fact that you’re trying to mischaracterise what I said by suggesting i focused on wealthy individuals shows how dishonest you are. Always try to reframe the argument to something you feel comfortable with because your economic voodoo has been debunked and you can’t hang.
PFI?
PFI?
December 2, 2025 at 3:59 PM
And the fact that you’re trying to mischaracterise what I said by suggesting i focused on wealthy individuals shows how dishonest you are. Always try to reframe the argument to something you feel comfortable with because your economic voodoo has been debunked and you can’t hang.
PFI?
PFI?
Yes and Norway have more regulation, more nationalisation and less subservience to markets.
Labour are deregulating, refusing to renationalise and kowtowing to the markets.
This is why youre the delusional one. And can’t answer on PFI. Not only dishonest, but cowardly too.
Labour are deregulating, refusing to renationalise and kowtowing to the markets.
This is why youre the delusional one. And can’t answer on PFI. Not only dishonest, but cowardly too.
December 2, 2025 at 3:54 PM
Yes and Norway have more regulation, more nationalisation and less subservience to markets.
Labour are deregulating, refusing to renationalise and kowtowing to the markets.
This is why youre the delusional one. And can’t answer on PFI. Not only dishonest, but cowardly too.
Labour are deregulating, refusing to renationalise and kowtowing to the markets.
This is why youre the delusional one. And can’t answer on PFI. Not only dishonest, but cowardly too.
And it’s not fantasy - it’s the Nordic model. Countries don’t have to be subservient to markets, that’s an ideological choice. The choice of people like you who are apparently happy to regress to feudalism, presumably because you’re not currently close to poverty.
It’s just selfish & shortsighted.
It’s just selfish & shortsighted.
December 2, 2025 at 3:51 PM
And it’s not fantasy - it’s the Nordic model. Countries don’t have to be subservient to markets, that’s an ideological choice. The choice of people like you who are apparently happy to regress to feudalism, presumably because you’re not currently close to poverty.
It’s just selfish & shortsighted.
It’s just selfish & shortsighted.
And this is why people like you are so disingenuous. You focused on private investment, I debunked your assertions and asked you to use the real, current policy of PFI to explain it.
And because you cant and know you’re bang to rights, you resort to condescending dismissal.
And because you cant and know you’re bang to rights, you resort to condescending dismissal.
December 2, 2025 at 3:49 PM
And this is why people like you are so disingenuous. You focused on private investment, I debunked your assertions and asked you to use the real, current policy of PFI to explain it.
And because you cant and know you’re bang to rights, you resort to condescending dismissal.
And because you cant and know you’re bang to rights, you resort to condescending dismissal.
This is why I say it’s ideological. Because when you actually look at the facts and the data, your beliefs collapse.
And you just have to keep banging a drum rather than actually apply some basic logic.
And you just have to keep banging a drum rather than actually apply some basic logic.
December 2, 2025 at 3:21 PM
This is why I say it’s ideological. Because when you actually look at the facts and the data, your beliefs collapse.
And you just have to keep banging a drum rather than actually apply some basic logic.
And you just have to keep banging a drum rather than actually apply some basic logic.
How about data centres? Another great “investment.” Drive up costs of utilities, take up massive amounts of land and for that they create about 6 jobs.
If a private company then takes all their profits back to the caymans, what’s the benefit of that “investment” to the UK?
If a private company then takes all their profits back to the caymans, what’s the benefit of that “investment” to the UK?
December 2, 2025 at 3:20 PM
How about data centres? Another great “investment.” Drive up costs of utilities, take up massive amounts of land and for that they create about 6 jobs.
If a private company then takes all their profits back to the caymans, what’s the benefit of that “investment” to the UK?
If a private company then takes all their profits back to the caymans, what’s the benefit of that “investment” to the UK?
So we control private investment? Explain how.
And you think it’s good that pensions are tied to market investment which ostensibly means that our entire futures can be held to ransom by the private equity that controls the market? Seriously?
And PFI is a real example. Explain through that?
And you think it’s good that pensions are tied to market investment which ostensibly means that our entire futures can be held to ransom by the private equity that controls the market? Seriously?
And PFI is a real example. Explain through that?
December 2, 2025 at 3:18 PM
So we control private investment? Explain how.
And you think it’s good that pensions are tied to market investment which ostensibly means that our entire futures can be held to ransom by the private equity that controls the market? Seriously?
And PFI is a real example. Explain through that?
And you think it’s good that pensions are tied to market investment which ostensibly means that our entire futures can be held to ransom by the private equity that controls the market? Seriously?
And PFI is a real example. Explain through that?
No, we’re talking about private investment.
Do you think a private investment will happen if they can’t make a gain on it? If not, where do you see the gain coming from? If the answer is growth, then that means that the growth is going back to the investor.
How do you not get this?
Do you think a private investment will happen if they can’t make a gain on it? If not, where do you see the gain coming from? If the answer is growth, then that means that the growth is going back to the investor.
How do you not get this?
December 2, 2025 at 3:10 PM
No, we’re talking about private investment.
Do you think a private investment will happen if they can’t make a gain on it? If not, where do you see the gain coming from? If the answer is growth, then that means that the growth is going back to the investor.
How do you not get this?
Do you think a private investment will happen if they can’t make a gain on it? If not, where do you see the gain coming from? If the answer is growth, then that means that the growth is going back to the investor.
How do you not get this?
Do you want me to let you have the last word? Is that what you need?
December 2, 2025 at 3:08 PM
Do you want me to let you have the last word? Is that what you need?
I don’t actually because I understand the economic realities. I don’t live in a middle class nimby bubble that believes what Rachel reeves says rather than the queues at the foodbank I see getting longer every week.
Why are uneducated shitbags always passive aggressive?
Why are uneducated shitbags always passive aggressive?
December 2, 2025 at 3:07 PM
I don’t actually because I understand the economic realities. I don’t live in a middle class nimby bubble that believes what Rachel reeves says rather than the queues at the foodbank I see getting longer every week.
Why are uneducated shitbags always passive aggressive?
Why are uneducated shitbags always passive aggressive?
Not in a materially important way. But your question is based on a false premise anyway.
Private investors will always prioritise profit. So how will their investment be any different than the past 45 years?
Private investors will always prioritise profit. So how will their investment be any different than the past 45 years?
December 2, 2025 at 3:06 PM
Not in a materially important way. But your question is based on a false premise anyway.
Private investors will always prioritise profit. So how will their investment be any different than the past 45 years?
Private investors will always prioritise profit. So how will their investment be any different than the past 45 years?
They’re two sides of the same coin.
Are you saying that private investors will be happy to not make a profit? And they’ll allow the govt to dictate how their money comes in?
Of course they won’t - so the result is the same.
Do you want to answer on PFI now?
Are you saying that private investors will be happy to not make a profit? And they’ll allow the govt to dictate how their money comes in?
Of course they won’t - so the result is the same.
Do you want to answer on PFI now?
December 2, 2025 at 3:05 PM
They’re two sides of the same coin.
Are you saying that private investors will be happy to not make a profit? And they’ll allow the govt to dictate how their money comes in?
Of course they won’t - so the result is the same.
Do you want to answer on PFI now?
Are you saying that private investors will be happy to not make a profit? And they’ll allow the govt to dictate how their money comes in?
Of course they won’t - so the result is the same.
Do you want to answer on PFI now?
Horseshoe? How’s Shabana Mahmoud‘s policy and speeches looking?
Rather hollow projection there babe.
But keep fighting for the last word so you can go and lick your wounds.
Rather hollow projection there babe.
But keep fighting for the last word so you can go and lick your wounds.
December 2, 2025 at 3:04 PM
Horseshoe? How’s Shabana Mahmoud‘s policy and speeches looking?
Rather hollow projection there babe.
But keep fighting for the last word so you can go and lick your wounds.
Rather hollow projection there babe.
But keep fighting for the last word so you can go and lick your wounds.
I love how passive aggressive people who can’t face reality but still cleave to the last word always try to pretend they’re taking some moral high ground. Its so vindicating.
December 2, 2025 at 3:02 PM
I love how passive aggressive people who can’t face reality but still cleave to the last word always try to pretend they’re taking some moral high ground. Its so vindicating.
Right which came about as a result of private investment. so why is so much kowtowing to private investment happening.
Do you genuinely believe that, for example, PFI is an economically sound decision?
Do you genuinely believe that, for example, PFI is an economically sound decision?
December 2, 2025 at 3:01 PM
Right which came about as a result of private investment. so why is so much kowtowing to private investment happening.
Do you genuinely believe that, for example, PFI is an economically sound decision?
Do you genuinely believe that, for example, PFI is an economically sound decision?
I’d already won babe. You couldn’t answer the points about an economic crash. About wealth inequality. About sticking to failing neoliberal dogma.
But if you need to feel like you won, ok. have it.
And strawman or not, it’s still true. You’re still supoorting genocide.
But if you need to feel like you won, ok. have it.
And strawman or not, it’s still true. You’re still supoorting genocide.
December 2, 2025 at 2:59 PM
I’d already won babe. You couldn’t answer the points about an economic crash. About wealth inequality. About sticking to failing neoliberal dogma.
But if you need to feel like you won, ok. have it.
And strawman or not, it’s still true. You’re still supoorting genocide.
But if you need to feel like you won, ok. have it.
And strawman or not, it’s still true. You’re still supoorting genocide.
ok. No, I don’t Think that it would. Neither would higher corporation tax.
The UK is a market of 70 million people. Companies won’t choose zero profit over 10% less profit.
there are an abundance of other ways to tax as well.
The UK is a market of 70 million people. Companies won’t choose zero profit over 10% less profit.
there are an abundance of other ways to tax as well.
December 2, 2025 at 2:57 PM
ok. No, I don’t Think that it would. Neither would higher corporation tax.
The UK is a market of 70 million people. Companies won’t choose zero profit over 10% less profit.
there are an abundance of other ways to tax as well.
The UK is a market of 70 million people. Companies won’t choose zero profit over 10% less profit.
there are an abundance of other ways to tax as well.