That didn't occur to me and I think it unlikely to be the *direct* cause. But there could be distrust because of the vibe surrounding export control and material from Snowden leaks etc.

Tbh, I was hoping someone might reply and tell me what the reason was!

thanks for your thoughts in this one Nathan!

Thanks Bill. The audio got out of sync during editing but we pushed out a fixed version. I guess that came out after you’d downloaded or listened. Sorry!

I suppose the broader point of the whole episode is that compromising telcos' lawful intercept was not necessary. I think you broadly agree? I hope the CSRB will be reconstituted and we might find out actually what happened.

Re: complete coverage. According to reporting Salt Typhoon has been very targeted. When your goal is intel from specific devices, lack of global coverage is neither here nor there. 3/4

Re: protocol stacks being different and undocumented. That's a problem sigint agencies deal with and overcome. When an agency has potential access to presidential-level comms, complex protocols are just something they deal with. 2/4

Hi Konrad,

thanks for this, I'm sure you are right and we undersold the difficulty of intercepting calls, contractors & detecting badness, etc and it is good to get feedback. 1/4