The Fourth Curtain podcast
thefourthcurtain.bsky.social
The Fourth Curtain podcast
@thefourthcurtain.bsky.social
A podcast about videogame makery, the definitive oral history of videogames. Hosted by Alex Seropian and Aaron Marroquin. podfollow.com/thefourthcurtain
A year ago using AI in #gamedev was mostly speculative. What a difference a year makes! 🎮
December 19, 2025 at 8:37 PM
The Fourth Curtain, the podcast history of #videogames, is back for a 2025 retrospective as we gird our loins for Season 4 next year! Switches, success🏆ratios and gamedev AI - oh my! 

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December 18, 2025 at 8:08 PM
Tomorrow we have a new episode of The Fourth Curtain podcast! Our intrepid hosts reflect on a topsy-turvy year in #videogames🎮#AI and much more. Listen up!
December 17, 2025 at 8:16 PM
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To sum up our year, @igda.org, how about our biggest District Arcade ever? 500+ attendees and 35 locally-made games. Game developers in D.C., Maryland, and Virginia: we host at least two in-person meetups every month. Come hang out!
December 16, 2025 at 2:39 PM
Christoph is another guest of ours with too many big #videogames to fit in an image!🎮podfollow.com/thefourthcurtain
October 18, 2025 at 5:12 PM
Our guest on Sam Houser's vision of an open world for #GTA!
October 17, 2025 at 5:51 PM
VP Amazon Games Christoph Hartmann is our guest. At BMG he helped launch GTA then co-found 2K Games and publish NBA 2K, Civ, Bioshock. We discuss the upcoming #videogame 👑 King of Meat, a fresh take on how AI can help gamedev and more - this week! t.co/cHXgJ0kf8d
October 16, 2025 at 7:15 PM
Tomorrow's guest on The Fourth Curtain podcast is a #baller joy-riding river Captain! podfollow.com/thefourthcurtain
October 15, 2025 at 5:06 PM
Thrilled to speak with Trip Hawkins, founder/CEO Electronic Arts (EA), Digital Chocolate and more. From early football strategy to💥WWIII sim, he made a company of electronic artists and legendary #videogames. Calming Steve Jobs, hacking consoles and many Firsts - this week! youtu.be/jCMldF7hRNg
October 9, 2025 at 7:12 PM
Our guests built Sucker Punch into a prolific creator of💥hit #videogames, which are not only ghostly but sly and infamous as well!
October 4, 2025 at 7:24 PM
It's a one-two move w/ Sucker Punch's Chris Zimmerman and Brian Fleming. Now shipping 👻 Ghost of Yotei, they tell us about leaving Microsoft for Sony & becoming a #videogame powerhouse. Tales of exact pitches & being great not good - this week! youtu.be/ZOj4nXXhB00
October 2, 2025 at 7:25 PM
Thursday we return with a BOOM! A very timely episode about a very big👻#videogame on The Fourth Curtain podcast. podfollow.com/thefourthcurtain
September 30, 2025 at 4:34 PM
David Gardner joins us this week w/ tales of the early days of #videogames. A teenage tech prodigy, he was employee #11 @EA, ran Atari and is now running London Venture Partners. We talk Hawkins distortion fields, Atari sandwiches and when EA was hip 🔥- this week! youtu.be/gzVG9Vu-TYU
August 28, 2025 at 7:12 PM
Tomorrow's guest on The Fourth Curtain podcast was a teenage prodigy and renowned sandwich-maker! 🥪
August 27, 2025 at 4:07 PM
This week's guest is another one with more big #videogames than we can fit on an image! Here are a couple of standouts. 🌟
August 16, 2025 at 5:51 PM
Our guest on the evergreen appeal of #RPGs!
August 15, 2025 at 5:34 PM
But how will you know how our hosts reflected 🤔on this episode? Right here! bit.ly/4fCeAct
August 15, 2025 at 12:27 AM
Our guest is Feargus Urquhart, founder/CEO of Obsidian, premier maker of videogame RPGs. From test and prod of huge titles like Baldur's Gate to Outer Worlds. We discuss snatching victory 🏆 from the jaws of defeat w/ Pillars of Eternity, and when a feature is real - this week! youtu.be/pqB7asfzVuQ
August 14, 2025 at 7:10 PM
Tomorrow's guest on The Fourth Curtain podcast is veteran of many huge #videogames, whose only fear is in his name!😶
August 13, 2025 at 5:16 PM
Who could be tomorrow's #gamedevs of mystery? Is there a clue in that sentence?🔎
August 6, 2025 at 5:45 PM
This week's guest made a splash with Spellbreak (which lives on) before getting called up to⚔️Warcraft! podfollow.com/thefourthcur...
August 2, 2025 at 5:03 PM
We return from break with an "enchanting" episode with Seth Sivak, VP Development for World of Warcraft at Blizzard. We discuss being an Imagineer, the three components of creative 🔥 decisions and "always be pitching" - this week! youtu.be/TlRTvtthwNI
July 31, 2025 at 7:22 PM
Tomorrow we return from break with a banger episode full of #videogame spells,☘️luck and Warcraft! Not to be missed.
July 30, 2025 at 4:19 PM
An encore episode in recognition of the PlayStation recently turning 25! That means it's antique. Here's the great Jason Rubin talking about building Naughty Dog, a multi-megahit #videogame studio. youtu.be/gesrOvuT5uE
Episode 30 - All Right the First Time with Crash Bandicoot's Jason Rubin
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July 24, 2025 at 5:30 PM
As our guest notes, Capture the Flag ⛳️is a hugely popular game type on both playgrounds and in #videogames which is often done poorly in the latter. Nearly every major sport in human history is a version of CTF - curious!
July 5, 2025 at 4:06 PM