Whilst I often think the same my mum (yes really 🤣) often reminds me that standards, for everything, are so much higher now. So the work has increased compared to old times… despite the tools 😢

I do actually think she’s right

I actually can’t rmemeber, it’s a blur, I don’t think I did. I think I wanted the fresh air and to decompress from the exam

Yeah, agreed, I could think of many similar issues re financial compulsion of disadvantaged people. The whole of societal make up quite frankly.

It’s a difficult topic when it’s paired with something so emotive. Goodnight R, nice to chat

As you can imagine this is a difficult topic - views on pregnancy after near life threatening experiences and baby loss aren’t likely to match up with the glittery miracle view.

Gonna get some sleep. Good luck with it.

Surrogacy will always be an emotive subject.

You can examine what’s happening all you like and I’m sure as always you’ll do a great job of it. I admire all your work even if I don’t agree.

I just think unless you have been in a woman’s position you may not be able to get the full picture

That’s just my point, a man may call it a biological miracle and seeing it as such. A woman may see it as a huge inconvenience because they have to go through it and take all the risks.

The imbalance in my and your view of pregnancy is just proving my point. It didn’t almost kill you.

These are women’s bodies, and if women are choosing to do something

And other women are choosing to do something else

And they chose by agreement

… then I guess that’s up to them

And for men to judge it & examine issues they may never fully understand is tricky, not impossible, but tricky

In the states that may be the case, in the UK there is no payment by law

Certainly it is a trend of the rich, but I wonder if other women had the means would they chose the same? We’ll never know

You could say the same about a cleaner, a nanny, etc these are all work being outsourced

Interesting…Why is it horrifying?

Do you know their reasons? Have you carried a child?

I suspect unless one has felt the desperation of keeping one’s life together, like I did that day

Or like many of these women do, wrestling over how to keep their seemingly opposing dreams afloat

It may well be difficult to understand

But this comes from a woman who walked into her FRCS the day after she was told she was at risk of torrential haemorrhage and needed urgent surgery, then walked to the hospital and admitted herself

So whilst I’ve not used a surrogate, I can see how far this issues pushes one to the very edge.

I don’t know their reasons. I can think of all the reasons I would use one and they’re mostly to do with how difficult society makes it to be ‘an individual’ with aspirations, dreams, a job, judged re appearance, poor maternity care and women’s health etc etc and be pregnant/a mother

It is complex

I think what’s as unsettling as the surrogacy trade (US not UK - no money here) is why women feel the need to use a surrogate if indeed it’s not due to medical need

I.e what’s making it so difficult for women

I.e I.e why is society messing even this up for women too?

This looks good, I shall add to my list!

Given his new position close to the centre of power in the USA I was keen to understand him better

This book was absolutely fascinating. Honestly every single page was a page turner. What an insane life.

I couldn’t NOT put this down

I’m one of these people who reads news and biographies on people I ideologically disagree with. I know this is unusual these days, indeed I’ve been attacked for it before

But I find great value in understanding how and why other people think as they do

You are actually QUITE CLOSE

Ah that’s very feasible and therefore something you WOULD guess!

I’m reading something I don’t think anyone would imagine I’d read…