Yeah but come on. Not worth pretending the public dont think what they think. They know parents who are universal credit are poor and the kids are in poor households.

I have a friend for instance - an assistant headteacher in a grammar school in South East England - who has radicalised herself into racism and fascist apologia simply by being there. Would that be the case if liberals she took seriously were still posting on the app by which she’s addicted?

I mean I don’t want to do both sides but there has been abuse and doxxing on here towards conservatives or “heterodox” (awful term). But yes, I completely get it. And the racism is pretty bad. But it’s less the hardcore I’m concerned about. It’s the ones who give it social permission.

I’m concerned with the health of the public sphere. And I don’t like BNP bullshit coming into mainstream discourse, frankly. And a lack of norm enforcement against it.

I hear you. And not without a point. But Sam, it’s getting really bad. And it’s bad because liberals have left the scene. People are radicalising in real time, And also, people post on Tik Tok. Owned by the CCP.

Fair enough. That’s true.

There needs to be a mass effort. Because some people are losing it.

*thick

People are losing their minds on Twitter and becoming more trick lazy, sloppy and radicalised because the libs are not there to argue against and challenge. Come back.

It was a big issue. Reform was rising in the polls beforehand. Farage then sees a bounce. Idea that its press coverage is something progressives need to get over. You make the case you want without it.

No, there was press coverage of immigration. And that’s not true. The press coverage follows the salience not vice versa.

No, it provided a huge liberalisation of attitudes which started from 2016 pretty much up until 2022.

No. because the racists we’re concerned about immigration beforehand.

She’s right to say getting control of the system is necessary for bringing down the salience and a more cohesive society. But saying “the country is becoming more racist” is too reductive and simplistic.

The argument shouldn’t be “we’re becoming more racist“. It should be “it raises the salience of immigration and this leads to increased rightwing populism and allows a racist minority to feel more legitimised to do X, Y and Z.”

You can have popular policies and lose. You can have loads of popular policies and lose precisely because some people think “my taxes will go up to pay for it” (and I don’t want that). You can have an unpopular policy and win (because your trusted on the basics which is popular).