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May 30, 2025 at 9:37 AM
Smallpox excepted (but that massive drop doesn't really look like a smallpox vaccine rollout to me).
May 29, 2025 at 7:52 PM
I'm sure the Haber process has nothing to do with energy...

I looked at this before. Vaccines are basically meaningless when you look at childhood mortality in historic timescales. Childhood mortality had a ten fold reduction before the first vaccine rollouts began.
May 29, 2025 at 7:48 PM
This one is perhaps a little unfair - that reduction happened with the help of coal... and the argument is probably that better information in the 80s might have changed decision making.

I think that only really applies to nuclear however, as solar has only recently become plausible.
May 29, 2025 at 6:07 PM
Or perhaps I'm thinking about the people on the breadline for whom the price of energy matters (i.e. the people most likely to die due to extreme temperatures - for example because they can't afford to run air conditioning).

Also I assume you would be fine with 40% of people not living to five?
May 29, 2025 at 6:05 PM
Actuaries will find that deaths due to both hot and cold weather has decrease (un?)fortunately.
May 29, 2025 at 5:41 PM
Like... why clearly? Cheap energy does loads of good things.
May 29, 2025 at 5:40 PM
But the use of fossil fuels may have also *prevented* the death.
May 29, 2025 at 5:38 PM
The lines of causality get kind of murky. It's liked you died due to heat, but maybe you would have already died, and also you might have died due to the lack of healthcare or starvation.

I suppose the main case for me would have been preventing the switch to nuclear....
May 29, 2025 at 5:35 PM
I suppose. lying tends not to be a crime. Some of the climate change will have occurred due to historic fossil fuels.

I don't really think that fossil fuels aren't required. I think after a couple of decades of building nuclear power or another order of magnitude decrease in battery prices maybe.
May 29, 2025 at 5:33 PM
Therefore suing fossil fuel companies for deaths due to fossil fuels is weird when they have actively prevented deaths.

I guess there might be an argument about "externalities being priced in" correctly...
May 29, 2025 at 5:31 PM
Okay... so my claim is that:

1. The industrial revolution required the use of fossil fuels
2. The industrial revolution has caused a number of wonderful things including:
a. Massive drop in childhood mortality
b. A massive increase in wealth
c. A massive decrease in deaths due to extreme weather
May 29, 2025 at 5:29 PM
Like... maybe. In the future definitely.

It's a good think that solar and wind appear to be the cheapest source of energy. Battery technology appears not to have been solved.

We should probably be using cheap nuclear. So I guess I agree. I don't really understand enough nuclear proliferation.
May 29, 2025 at 5:24 PM
I guess. Cigarettes didn't fuel 200 years of economic growth that moved people from poverty to a reasonable standard of living however. I'm personally happy that 30% of children don't die before the age of five...

It may well be time to step off that machine...
May 29, 2025 at 5:19 PM
:/ deaths due to whether conditions (both hot and cold) have massively decreased partly powered by the wealth generated by fossil fuels.
May 29, 2025 at 5:18 PM
Kind of agree... but think that (morally) there is an argument about whether things are necessary - which is based on the responsiveness of the machine as an entity.
May 29, 2025 at 5:15 PM
Interesting... I used to run debian nightly's.
May 29, 2025 at 5:11 PM
Hmm... you might not be aware of UK politics.

There view is that the cause of violence is people not being sufficiently feminist. People have constructed an unsubstantiated, antiscientific viewpoint that the cause of violence is down to sexist attitdues.

www.gov.uk/government/p...
May 4, 2025 at 7:49 PM