We inverted the times. I thought Q&A should be the main driver. We also had long coffee breaks for conversation.

My perspective is rather straightforward: these things are artifacts. They can accomplish certain tasks in non-human ways. Why use any anthropocentric language to understand them when their existence proves that we don’t need such? It’s like forcing human voice metaphors on Moog synthesizers. Why?

This looks fascinating! Thank you!

How do you join this!?

Thank you. I saw and read the first link and didn’t see them. Read second link later with the hyperlinks. Found the first number. Didn’t see the second one.

There were two links to the post, I read the first one and was confused. Thank you for your kind and patient education on the norms of social media.

I was going by the letter and the links. I found it now. Thank you for your kind understanding.

Could you please share the source of those numbers? Is that a paper?

I meant to say more. There was a higher epistemic status given to the results of those— rare people —that could do astronomy (observations and calculations) and be excellent at drawing. This was because they would have one less mediator between the phenomena and the image.

The role of images and of image mediation was very well understood in the philosophy of astronomy since the days of Galileo and Kepler.

#philsci

I find “conventional view” to be much more hurtful, yet professional.

That last sentence hit hard. What a piece of 21st century art!

A truly fantastic piece Ramon, I enjoyed the exchange enormously and argued back for the need to rescue intelligence from anti-human AI, it’s too important a notion to both human and non-human interactions with the world - see this rejoinder hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu/pub/c5hq3by1.... #philsci

I really enjoyed the rejoinder, Sabina, it signals a longer and important conversation. The interrogation and/or the rescuing of intelligence will be one of the most important (and fundamental) debates in our fields ( #philtech #philsci and #AIethics). Long overdue.