I'd rather not get into an argument about it because I don't really have an interest in defending the use of that word in particular, so it amounts to "I don't 100% agree with the reason you cited." "It feels sort of fasc." is not far enough off from "it means X in nazis."

I don't agree with its use because I think it's broadly carceral, but the nazis also called all those groups "inferior" and no one is taking that word to have only ID connotations.

I'm not sure how to phrase this, so asking for a little grace – the word is inherently derogatory & moralizing & nazis/facists coopted such language to describe groups the politicized as worthy of genocide. It's still a term that doesn't have exclusively identity-synonymous connotations.

(Sorry this is long, I don't know how to post, I just have thoughts) With that said, as a person who has been harmed, ya have a right to your feelings and to advocate for remediation as you see fit. I appreciate you humoring this hopefully-taken-in-good-faith take.

I feel like we have to think abt how reasonable it is to sacrifice the expansive connotation for the more constrictive deleterious connotation. Idk if I personally love calling anyone degenerate, but I do think "being trans is not degeneracy" has more utility over "stop saying "degenerate.""

I can understand why this term would feel activating when your most common association with it is with violence against your community. I'd guess that for most people, it's a widely invoked notion that they've seen applied to so many contexts, it's doesn't auto-invoke trans ID to them at all.

To be clear, I like *other* sans serif humanist fonts!!!! I think accessibility is good!

So, what you said. Just with a nuance that people want to be good and to have good things and normalization shifts what it's easiest to believe is in accordance with that. Anyway, interested in your perspective! Thanks for engaging!

Abortion defies God's will, ban it -> we legalized it, it helped people I care about. It doesn't seem that wrong, but I'm supposed to think it's Bad, so I'll keep quiet -> under threat, my perspective is bigger and more important than demonization. Outrage shows others are on my side.

Generally! But I guess I'd more say my point is normalization is humanizing. People seem invested in wellbeing, want it for themselves &, in absence of dominant narrative that they're wrong to do so – X will steal your jobs, Y is against God's will, Z will corrupt children – for others. So ->

So, *easily* the smartest thing to do is run whoever has the best shot at authenticity. Run whomever people want to listen to. Run whoever's plan sounds like it will most reasonably protect the financial interests of the community and, importantly, whoever will not tell the community who to hate.

This means 1) no matter how hard dems pivot to the center, if they don't figure out how to control the narrative, they're just what the media says they are, 2) they're eliminating the possibility to take social issues from a place of fear/antagonism to one of "you do you" & "your neighbor's chill."

It's UNDENIABLE that a massive factor in the Harris campaign was that the media narrative was stronger than hers. They said she was talking about "culture war" issues and she just flat out wasn't. You can't talk less about something you aren't really talking about.

People *do not* have the same pliability with economic issues, which are felt extremely tangibly. You cannot trick someone into feeling more economically comfortable than they feel and you *definitely* cannot do that by saying you're going to turn the spigots several rungs of abstraction from them.

People said they opposed abortion until abortion was legalized then it became something to not speak of. Then, when it was being taken away, it was clear it's Actualy, Important to Have. Similar logic w/ immigration. Homophobia is still very real, but appealing gay marriage is a fringe position.

People can be convinced to oppose those things by being told they help [marginalized community] & [marginalized community] is a financial or moral threat. However, when not being phantom antagonized, theyre actually fairly small "l" libertarian; you do you. People wanna like the people around them.