Mario Klingemann
@quasimondo.bsky.social
Artist, Neurographer, AI Prompteur, Purveyor of Systems, Data Dumpster Diver, Information Recycler
I hope you explain to them that training a LoRA is not the same as training a GAN or a DiffusionModel from scratch. Since in case of the former you just nudge a model that has already been trained on millions of "other people's" images into the desired areas of its latent space.
February 23, 2025 at 5:35 PM
I hope you explain to them that training a LoRA is not the same as training a GAN or a DiffusionModel from scratch. Since in case of the former you just nudge a model that has already been trained on millions of "other people's" images into the desired areas of its latent space.
Maybe my installation "Circuit Training" does match the criteria which is creating its own dataset in the exhibition context by inviting the audience into its automated photo-booth to become the training data:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXan...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXan...
SOLO:: Artists Program:: Circuit Training by Mario Klingemann
YouTube video by Colección SOLO
www.youtube.com
February 21, 2025 at 1:44 PM
Maybe my installation "Circuit Training" does match the criteria which is creating its own dataset in the exhibition context by inviting the audience into its automated photo-booth to become the training data:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXan...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXan...
Ah - re-reading your post - when you say "from scratch", does that include taking the actual photos, too, and not just finding and categorizing them? In that case of course I am off-topic here.
February 21, 2025 at 1:39 PM
Ah - re-reading your post - when you say "from scratch", does that include taking the actual photos, too, and not just finding and categorizing them? In that case of course I am off-topic here.
There was no real alternative back in the early days, if you weren't into just creating dogs, flowers, hotel rooms or tourist attractions (which to my knowledge were the only pre-trained models available back then)
February 21, 2025 at 1:34 PM
There was no real alternative back in the early days, if you weren't into just creating dogs, flowers, hotel rooms or tourist attractions (which to my knowledge were the only pre-trained models available back then)
All my early AI work was using models I had trained on my own datasets that I had collected/curated myself.
These for example are from my 2017 "Imposture" series that was trained on images and poses extracted from pornographic images.
These for example are from my 2017 "Imposture" series that was trained on images and poses extracted from pornographic images.
February 21, 2025 at 1:34 PM
All my early AI work was using models I had trained on my own datasets that I had collected/curated myself.
These for example are from my 2017 "Imposture" series that was trained on images and poses extracted from pornographic images.
These for example are from my 2017 "Imposture" series that was trained on images and poses extracted from pornographic images.
It's easier for the algorithm to work with shorter segments.
February 5, 2025 at 6:04 PM
It's easier for the algorithm to work with shorter segments.
Different starting conditions and target.
February 5, 2025 at 1:31 PM
Different starting conditions and target.
Oh, I fear that it will probably hurt your soul even more if you hear that Botto is now even creating #generativeart sketches with P5.js. And whilst a lot of the results are rather beginner level quality, some of them are quite interesting.
January 28, 2025 at 6:57 AM
Oh, I fear that it will probably hurt your soul even more if you hear that Botto is now even creating #generativeart sketches with P5.js. And whilst a lot of the results are rather beginner level quality, some of them are quite interesting.
And for a glimpse into the "state of the art" at the time this is a good summary for what happened in 2016 and who was around:
www.alt-ai.net#watch
www.alt-ai.net#watch
alt-AI
alt-AI was a conference about AI-based creativity & art, held in May 2016 at the School for Poetic Computation.
www.alt-ai.net
November 28, 2024 at 8:48 AM
And for a glimpse into the "state of the art" at the time this is a good summary for what happened in 2016 and who was around:
www.alt-ai.net#watch
www.alt-ai.net#watch
Those years might not line up with when the papers were published which typically was earlier, but for AI art the important dates were when the models and code were actually shared.
November 28, 2024 at 8:45 AM
Those years might not line up with when the papers were published which typically was earlier, but for AI art the important dates were when the models and code were actually shared.
From my personal recollection I would say the history was:
2014 Image Classifiers (AlexNet, GoogLeNet)
2015 DeepDream / RNN (text generation)
2016 PPGN / StyleTransfer
2017 VAE / pix2pix
2018 pix2pixHD / CycleGAN
2019 StyleGAN / BigGAN
2020 StyleGAN2 / CLIP / VQGAN
2021 StableDiffusion
2014 Image Classifiers (AlexNet, GoogLeNet)
2015 DeepDream / RNN (text generation)
2016 PPGN / StyleTransfer
2017 VAE / pix2pix
2018 pix2pixHD / CycleGAN
2019 StyleGAN / BigGAN
2020 StyleGAN2 / CLIP / VQGAN
2021 StableDiffusion
November 28, 2024 at 8:45 AM
From my personal recollection I would say the history was:
2014 Image Classifiers (AlexNet, GoogLeNet)
2015 DeepDream / RNN (text generation)
2016 PPGN / StyleTransfer
2017 VAE / pix2pix
2018 pix2pixHD / CycleGAN
2019 StyleGAN / BigGAN
2020 StyleGAN2 / CLIP / VQGAN
2021 StableDiffusion
2014 Image Classifiers (AlexNet, GoogLeNet)
2015 DeepDream / RNN (text generation)
2016 PPGN / StyleTransfer
2017 VAE / pix2pix
2018 pix2pixHD / CycleGAN
2019 StyleGAN / BigGAN
2020 StyleGAN2 / CLIP / VQGAN
2021 StableDiffusion
One very important moment in the early days of GANs and their influence on what we know now as AI art was @phillipisola.bsky.social releasing pix2pix - the reason being that it allowed to create larger and more "artistic" outputs than @ian-goodfellow.bsky.social's original GAN from which it derived.
November 28, 2024 at 8:21 AM
One very important moment in the early days of GANs and their influence on what we know now as AI art was @phillipisola.bsky.social releasing pix2pix - the reason being that it allowed to create larger and more "artistic" outputs than @ian-goodfellow.bsky.social's original GAN from which it derived.
The term "AI art" did not exist yet when people like Anna, Memo, Helena, Mike, Kyle, Gene, me and about maybe 5-10 others word-wide started experimenting artistically with them. So yes, I guess we shaped it.
Oh and diffusion models are not "early days" - that's like industrial age vs middle ages.
Oh and diffusion models are not "early days" - that's like industrial age vs middle ages.
November 28, 2024 at 8:07 AM
The term "AI art" did not exist yet when people like Anna, Memo, Helena, Mike, Kyle, Gene, me and about maybe 5-10 others word-wide started experimenting artistically with them. So yes, I guess we shaped it.
Oh and diffusion models are not "early days" - that's like industrial age vs middle ages.
Oh and diffusion models are not "early days" - that's like industrial age vs middle ages.
I mean an LLM writing code, like p5.js which resembles a system that generates visuals or animations using various parameters and pseudo-random number generators - which is what I guess most people would understand as typical "generative art". And yes maybe a human prompted the LLM do to that.
November 18, 2024 at 9:44 PM
I mean an LLM writing code, like p5.js which resembles a system that generates visuals or animations using various parameters and pseudo-random number generators - which is what I guess most people would understand as typical "generative art". And yes maybe a human prompted the LLM do to that.
This discussion is rather fruitless. AI art is generative in its nature - even the one that is just prompted. I wonder - what is your verdict on AI-coded "generative" (aka code-based/algorithmic) art? Does the code have to be handcrafted in order to be permitted to wear that label?
November 17, 2024 at 2:13 PM
This discussion is rather fruitless. AI art is generative in its nature - even the one that is just prompted. I wonder - what is your verdict on AI-coded "generative" (aka code-based/algorithmic) art? Does the code have to be handcrafted in order to be permitted to wear that label?