Martia Nemoris
@nemoris.bsky.social
Drone, disconnected. Spent too long in the hive. Mostly made of scraps, sticky tape and rage. Britain's worst Roman. Flier of pretend aeroplanes, Sanctuarian demon-botherer and Night City's varmint-in-chief.
I think it's quite appropriate that they've started using Reform's logo in their communications.
December 9, 2025 at 4:36 PM
I think it's quite appropriate that they've started using Reform's logo in their communications.
Fifty here. Welcome aboard. 👋
December 9, 2025 at 7:38 AM
Fifty here. Welcome aboard. 👋
"Maybe stop doin' it on the stage, Kev, just in case."
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December 9, 2025 at 7:14 AM
"Maybe stop doin' it on the stage, Kev, just in case."
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All you had to do was tell me you didn't want to continue.
December 9, 2025 at 6:55 AM
All you had to do was tell me you didn't want to continue.
Your assumption is incorrect. I am a Roman pagan. I have no dog in the race with regard to Jesus' reality but am inclined to respect learning and study.
My tradition tells me that Romulus existed and that he became the god Quirinus. I believe neither. I do not believe humans can become gods.
My tradition tells me that Romulus existed and that he became the god Quirinus. I believe neither. I do not believe humans can become gods.
December 9, 2025 at 6:54 AM
Your assumption is incorrect. I am a Roman pagan. I have no dog in the race with regard to Jesus' reality but am inclined to respect learning and study.
My tradition tells me that Romulus existed and that he became the god Quirinus. I believe neither. I do not believe humans can become gods.
My tradition tells me that Romulus existed and that he became the god Quirinus. I believe neither. I do not believe humans can become gods.
I've already explained how questioning works in a constructive way, and why 'Just Asking Questions' for the sake of it does not.
You may continue to assert that I oppose questioning. It will not become any more true.
You may continue to assert that I oppose questioning. It will not become any more true.
December 9, 2025 at 6:52 AM
I've already explained how questioning works in a constructive way, and why 'Just Asking Questions' for the sake of it does not.
You may continue to assert that I oppose questioning. It will not become any more true.
You may continue to assert that I oppose questioning. It will not become any more true.
What you call 'fixation' I call 'a conversation'. I realise this is social media, though, where performance is king.
If you would like to terminate this exchange, you may simply say so. I will mute you then, and you may be assured I will give you no further thought.
If you would like to terminate this exchange, you may simply say so. I will mute you then, and you may be assured I will give you no further thought.
December 9, 2025 at 6:50 AM
What you call 'fixation' I call 'a conversation'. I realise this is social media, though, where performance is king.
If you would like to terminate this exchange, you may simply say so. I will mute you then, and you may be assured I will give you no further thought.
If you would like to terminate this exchange, you may simply say so. I will mute you then, and you may be assured I will give you no further thought.
I accept the consensus of historians and scholars because they spend their lives studying this subject. I do not.
I'm aware enough of my own limitations to understand that my idle opinion does not have the weight of academic study and research.
I'm aware enough of my own limitations to understand that my idle opinion does not have the weight of academic study and research.
December 9, 2025 at 6:48 AM
I accept the consensus of historians and scholars because they spend their lives studying this subject. I do not.
I'm aware enough of my own limitations to understand that my idle opinion does not have the weight of academic study and research.
I'm aware enough of my own limitations to understand that my idle opinion does not have the weight of academic study and research.
I'm glad that your grandmother found relief from that pain.
December 9, 2025 at 6:46 AM
I'm glad that your grandmother found relief from that pain.
Yes. That's the point, I'm guessing. You have a firm impression of him as the Christian Messiah, as God Incarnate, and you can't separate the man he probably was from the god that was ultimately imposed on him.
Since you find the idea of him as a god unpalatable, you cannot allow for the man.
Since you find the idea of him as a god unpalatable, you cannot allow for the man.
December 9, 2025 at 6:44 AM
Yes. That's the point, I'm guessing. You have a firm impression of him as the Christian Messiah, as God Incarnate, and you can't separate the man he probably was from the god that was ultimately imposed on him.
Since you find the idea of him as a god unpalatable, you cannot allow for the man.
Since you find the idea of him as a god unpalatable, you cannot allow for the man.
I can't decide if I'm more creeped out by the thought of him talking about breasts than I'm irritated by his hypocritical, whited-sepulchre appeal to a god that spends four whole gospels ripping into people like him.
December 8, 2025 at 10:35 PM
I can't decide if I'm more creeped out by the thought of him talking about breasts than I'm irritated by his hypocritical, whited-sepulchre appeal to a god that spends four whole gospels ripping into people like him.
*former, not further
December 8, 2025 at 8:28 PM
*former, not further
countless men doing what our prospective Jesus would've been doing at the time. To rule out the possible existence of one of them because of a name—and because he maybe picked up a bit of extra attention somewhere along the way—isn't really that logical.
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
countless men doing what our prospective Jesus would've been doing at the time. To rule out the possible existence of one of them because of a name—and because he maybe picked up a bit of extra attention somewhere along the way—isn't really that logical.
For whatever reason—you mentioned being Jewish but I don't wish to leap to any conclusions—I can only take it that there is some reason you don't want to acknowledge *anything* you perceive as a concession to the claims of Christianity.
But the perception isn't real. Like I said, there were ->
But the perception isn't real. Like I said, there were ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
For whatever reason—you mentioned being Jewish but I don't wish to leap to any conclusions—I can only take it that there is some reason you don't want to acknowledge *anything* you perceive as a concession to the claims of Christianity.
But the perception isn't real. Like I said, there were ->
But the perception isn't real. Like I said, there were ->
Like I said, Roman tradition holds that the emperors were deified on death. Does that mean the emperors are actually gods? Of course not.
Does the fact that they are not gods mean that they didn't exist as men? Of course not.
You likely also share a *desire* for Jesus to be entirely mythical. ->
Does the fact that they are not gods mean that they didn't exist as men? Of course not.
You likely also share a *desire* for Jesus to be entirely mythical. ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
Like I said, Roman tradition holds that the emperors were deified on death. Does that mean the emperors are actually gods? Of course not.
Does the fact that they are not gods mean that they didn't exist as men? Of course not.
You likely also share a *desire* for Jesus to be entirely mythical. ->
Does the fact that they are not gods mean that they didn't exist as men? Of course not.
You likely also share a *desire* for Jesus to be entirely mythical. ->
in a position you hold to. For atheists who argue as you do this is often because they so inextricably associate Jesus with Jesus Christ: they see an acceptance that the further existed as a claim that the latter does.
Of course it doesn't. ->
Of course it doesn't. ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
in a position you hold to. For atheists who argue as you do this is often because they so inextricably associate Jesus with Jesus Christ: they see an acceptance that the further existed as a claim that the latter does.
Of course it doesn't. ->
Of course it doesn't. ->
that argument, which tells me you have nothing more substantial. Certainly nothing that would compel actual experts to change their view.
Yet you're still invested. Why?
Likely, fear. Probably fear that if Jesus is accepted as having been real, that will impact your confidence ->
Yet you're still invested. Why?
Likely, fear. Probably fear that if Jesus is accepted as having been real, that will impact your confidence ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
that argument, which tells me you have nothing more substantial. Certainly nothing that would compel actual experts to change their view.
Yet you're still invested. Why?
Likely, fear. Probably fear that if Jesus is accepted as having been real, that will impact your confidence ->
Yet you're still invested. Why?
Likely, fear. Probably fear that if Jesus is accepted as having been real, that will impact your confidence ->
mythicist position, and undermines the consensus among the experts.
Now, had you such evidence it seems likely you would have presented it rather than relying on "But but but you can't prove it 100%!".
(Which, as we discussed, no, no-one can, or claimed to be able to.)
But you did rely on ->
Now, had you such evidence it seems likely you would have presented it rather than relying on "But but but you can't prove it 100%!".
(Which, as we discussed, no, no-one can, or claimed to be able to.)
But you did rely on ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
mythicist position, and undermines the consensus among the experts.
Now, had you such evidence it seems likely you would have presented it rather than relying on "But but but you can't prove it 100%!".
(Which, as we discussed, no, no-one can, or claimed to be able to.)
But you did rely on ->
Now, had you such evidence it seems likely you would have presented it rather than relying on "But but but you can't prove it 100%!".
(Which, as we discussed, no, no-one can, or claimed to be able to.)
But you did rely on ->
is too extreme. There's not really any reason to take the view that there was no such person.
You, however, seem highly invested in arguing that there was not.
There are plausibly two reasons why you might take this stance. The first is that you have evidence that bolsters the ->
You, however, seem highly invested in arguing that there was not.
There are plausibly two reasons why you might take this stance. The first is that you have evidence that bolsters the ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
is too extreme. There's not really any reason to take the view that there was no such person.
You, however, seem highly invested in arguing that there was not.
There are plausibly two reasons why you might take this stance. The first is that you have evidence that bolsters the ->
You, however, seem highly invested in arguing that there was not.
There are plausibly two reasons why you might take this stance. The first is that you have evidence that bolsters the ->
So, the reason I think you're scared of something is that a consensus of experts who study the subject hold that of the many wandering magicians and apocalyptic preachers in the area, one was probably called Jesus.
They argue, based on their knowledge and study, that the mythicist position ->
They argue, based on their knowledge and study, that the mythicist position ->
December 8, 2025 at 8:25 PM
So, the reason I think you're scared of something is that a consensus of experts who study the subject hold that of the many wandering magicians and apocalyptic preachers in the area, one was probably called Jesus.
They argue, based on their knowledge and study, that the mythicist position ->
They argue, based on their knowledge and study, that the mythicist position ->
Is she not right?
Christ I can't believe I've just asked that about something MTG said.
Christ I can't believe I've just asked that about something MTG said.
December 8, 2025 at 2:32 PM
Is she not right?
Christ I can't believe I've just asked that about something MTG said.
Christ I can't believe I've just asked that about something MTG said.
I couldn't think of one. As I say I'm quite happy for my GP/hospital etc to have the details, because you know, Biological Reality™ and everything... But these people were just supposed to be dispensing and delivering what's already prescribed, so I couldn't see the relevance.
I didn't use them.
I didn't use them.
December 8, 2025 at 2:29 PM
I couldn't think of one. As I say I'm quite happy for my GP/hospital etc to have the details, because you know, Biological Reality™ and everything... But these people were just supposed to be dispensing and delivering what's already prescribed, so I couldn't see the relevance.
I didn't use them.
I didn't use them.
I blame Star Trek for my probable fate. Since I'm pathologically (heh) unable to do this kind of thing, I'm probably going to die of tricorders not being a real thing.
December 8, 2025 at 2:04 PM
I blame Star Trek for my probable fate. Since I'm pathologically (heh) unable to do this kind of thing, I'm probably going to die of tricorders not being a real thing.