Nate The Prole
@nateprole.bsky.social
I consider myself a pacifist first - but one who believes in self defence to the point of using force to defend myself and others & corporate and national systems are already perpetrating violence via pollution (& subsequent harm & deaths) / control and coercion & Mother Earth needs defenders too.
November 10, 2025 at 3:21 PM
I consider myself a pacifist first - but one who believes in self defence to the point of using force to defend myself and others & corporate and national systems are already perpetrating violence via pollution (& subsequent harm & deaths) / control and coercion & Mother Earth needs defenders too.
I'm all for using whatever systems already exist - but they tend not to bend except where their power or profits are threatened, but some of them will continue to be a threat to all our existence as long as they exist - so if you can figure out how to dismantle that peacefully more power to you.
November 10, 2025 at 3:17 PM
I'm all for using whatever systems already exist - but they tend not to bend except where their power or profits are threatened, but some of them will continue to be a threat to all our existence as long as they exist - so if you can figure out how to dismantle that peacefully more power to you.
I almost mentioned Robinson's Ministry Of The Future or Varoufakis's Another Now. But I do imagine it would have be a multi pronged solution of pressures from many quarters - Anarchists being an important part and non-hierarchal decentralism being essential to maintain it long term.
November 10, 2025 at 3:10 PM
I almost mentioned Robinson's Ministry Of The Future or Varoufakis's Another Now. But I do imagine it would have be a multi pronged solution of pressures from many quarters - Anarchists being an important part and non-hierarchal decentralism being essential to maintain it long term.
I see the possibility of groups like La Vía Campesina (200 million members in 81 countries) being instrumental in such changes - it definitely would require a lot of power and pressure from people - but I see the awareness & radicalisation increasingly happening & am trying to do my part
November 10, 2025 at 3:01 PM
I see the possibility of groups like La Vía Campesina (200 million members in 81 countries) being instrumental in such changes - it definitely would require a lot of power and pressure from people - but I see the awareness & radicalisation increasingly happening & am trying to do my part
4) Whatever methods of geoengineering were deemed effective making profit would only get in the way of their effectiveness, especially with localised deployment - think tech for direct air capture, enhanced weathering, biological sequestration etc. which will work better the more they are spread.
November 10, 2025 at 2:59 PM
4) Whatever methods of geoengineering were deemed effective making profit would only get in the way of their effectiveness, especially with localised deployment - think tech for direct air capture, enhanced weathering, biological sequestration etc. which will work better the more they are spread.
3) Most scientists don’t see the feedback loop as inevitably continual and still see massive reduction as the most effective response. But if we presume that weren't the case I still contend that structural change is the only way to stop future cycles reoccurring even if we find a stop-gap solution.
November 10, 2025 at 2:58 PM
3) Most scientists don’t see the feedback loop as inevitably continual and still see massive reduction as the most effective response. But if we presume that weren't the case I still contend that structural change is the only way to stop future cycles reoccurring even if we find a stop-gap solution.
2) In the case of geo-engineering I believe that corporations and states see it as a solution precisely because it will allow them to potentially pollute longer - they have no short term financial or power incentive to implement anything that might harm their power or profits.
November 10, 2025 at 2:57 PM
2) In the case of geo-engineering I believe that corporations and states see it as a solution precisely because it will allow them to potentially pollute longer - they have no short term financial or power incentive to implement anything that might harm their power or profits.
1) Regional and even global co-ordination is not anti-Anarchist - Organisation is the O around the Anarchist A symbol - Ⓐ However, we tend to focus on the local because it is something individuals can immediately be part of and be involved in.
November 10, 2025 at 2:57 PM
1) Regional and even global co-ordination is not anti-Anarchist - Organisation is the O around the Anarchist A symbol - Ⓐ However, we tend to focus on the local because it is something individuals can immediately be part of and be involved in.
I agree whole heartedly with this - I just have no faith that working through the same systems that enable this will make changing it possible.
November 10, 2025 at 2:57 PM
I agree whole heartedly with this - I just have no faith that working through the same systems that enable this will make changing it possible.
(5) Natural life and its freedom being the greatest priority then if some geo-engineering was absolutely necessary then it could be carried out in a coordinated way etc. But giving centralised state or corporate bodies that power risks leading to it being used to justify climate harm as usual.
November 10, 2025 at 2:38 PM
(5) Natural life and its freedom being the greatest priority then if some geo-engineering was absolutely necessary then it could be carried out in a coordinated way etc. But giving centralised state or corporate bodies that power risks leading to it being used to justify climate harm as usual.
(4) 4) A complete cultural and organisational change to the incentives for production, prioritising needs over wants, human good over profit, and respect of natural and animal life and what is needed to preserve it.
November 10, 2025 at 2:35 PM
(4) 4) A complete cultural and organisational change to the incentives for production, prioritising needs over wants, human good over profit, and respect of natural and animal life and what is needed to preserve it.
(3) 2) Having direct community responsibility and relationship to the land, the minerals, the waterways, and production locally - instead of it being imposed top down.
3) Multi-community and regional co-ordination to limit or eliminate harmful externalities.
3) Multi-community and regional co-ordination to limit or eliminate harmful externalities.
November 10, 2025 at 2:35 PM
(3) 2) Having direct community responsibility and relationship to the land, the minerals, the waterways, and production locally - instead of it being imposed top down.
3) Multi-community and regional co-ordination to limit or eliminate harmful externalities.
3) Multi-community and regional co-ordination to limit or eliminate harmful externalities.
(2) Some of Anarchism’s answers to climate change are -
1) Taking power, capital and property ownership back from those who are currently able to use it to pollute, to produce wasteful and unused excess, and are shielded from the human, health and environmental costs of their production.
1) Taking power, capital and property ownership back from those who are currently able to use it to pollute, to produce wasteful and unused excess, and are shielded from the human, health and environmental costs of their production.
November 10, 2025 at 2:34 PM
(2) Some of Anarchism’s answers to climate change are -
1) Taking power, capital and property ownership back from those who are currently able to use it to pollute, to produce wasteful and unused excess, and are shielded from the human, health and environmental costs of their production.
1) Taking power, capital and property ownership back from those who are currently able to use it to pollute, to produce wasteful and unused excess, and are shielded from the human, health and environmental costs of their production.
(1) As your multiple replies show it is difficult to give a complete answer in a short message, and very easy to dismiss something which has not had a chance to explain itself.
November 10, 2025 at 2:34 PM
(1) As your multiple replies show it is difficult to give a complete answer in a short message, and very easy to dismiss something which has not had a chance to explain itself.
It is relevant because he largely popularised the concept as it related to capital management of the economy.
She did write about the role of managed commons and environmental impact. When those directly benefitted or impacted by local environmental concerns have a direct stewardship and say.
She did write about the role of managed commons and environmental impact. When those directly benefitted or impacted by local environmental concerns have a direct stewardship and say.
November 10, 2025 at 2:25 PM
It is relevant because he largely popularised the concept as it related to capital management of the economy.
She did write about the role of managed commons and environmental impact. When those directly benefitted or impacted by local environmental concerns have a direct stewardship and say.
She did write about the role of managed commons and environmental impact. When those directly benefitted or impacted by local environmental concerns have a direct stewardship and say.
The Tragedy Of The Commons concept was created by a racist to further their racist and pro-propertarian beliefs. Economist Elinor Ostrom won the Economics Nobel Prize by disproving it. Successful commons have been the norm for most of human history. anarwiki.org/wiki/Tragedy...
November 10, 2025 at 11:24 AM
The Tragedy Of The Commons concept was created by a racist to further their racist and pro-propertarian beliefs. Economist Elinor Ostrom won the Economics Nobel Prize by disproving it. Successful commons have been the norm for most of human history. anarwiki.org/wiki/Tragedy...
Hierarchal systems always either become corrupted by those trying to maintain power or are co-opted by those trying to obtain it. At scale this requires military and economic dominance & inevitably leads to environmental destruction. The structure is part of the ecological problem. Hence Anarchism.
November 10, 2025 at 11:19 AM
Hierarchal systems always either become corrupted by those trying to maintain power or are co-opted by those trying to obtain it. At scale this requires military and economic dominance & inevitably leads to environmental destruction. The structure is part of the ecological problem. Hence Anarchism.
Well some of us can't resist an argument online - have to sharpen those debate skills somehow ;-)
November 7, 2025 at 11:06 AM
Well some of us can't resist an argument online - have to sharpen those debate skills somehow ;-)
This may be skewed by the online comments you're seeing, but most Anarchists I know spend a lot of time speaking about Anarchism & as most of them are Communists too they spend a lot of time speaking about that as well - but when they aren't speaking about it they are 'doing' praxis and life.
November 6, 2025 at 9:47 AM
This may be skewed by the online comments you're seeing, but most Anarchists I know spend a lot of time speaking about Anarchism & as most of them are Communists too they spend a lot of time speaking about that as well - but when they aren't speaking about it they are 'doing' praxis and life.
No leaders? There have been plenty of Anarchist leaders who have shown the way, set an example, stepped out in front of danger etc. Anarchists believe in organisation and accountability. We just don't believe in imaginary 'transitionary' states that will avoid abusing power and somehow wither away.
November 4, 2025 at 3:56 PM
No leaders? There have been plenty of Anarchist leaders who have shown the way, set an example, stepped out in front of danger etc. Anarchists believe in organisation and accountability. We just don't believe in imaginary 'transitionary' states that will avoid abusing power and somehow wither away.