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n_th_n
@n-th-n.bsky.social
works against: deportations, capitalism, cages. & for: abolition, community. organizing mainly with Survived & Punished NY
"to hear the sound of glass breaking, glass must be broken"
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it's just about being realistic about what the scope of impact is. if ICE arrests 30,000 each month, and habeas can free 282 in a few months, then we're talking about addressing less than 1% of the problem. i'm doing it myself and obviously think it's worthwhile; it's just about analytic clarity
November 19, 2025 at 7:00 PM
So, I'm doing habeas cases, they matter tremendously to the person you get out and their loved ones, but even without the 9 robed fascists on the supreme court, there's simply no way to meaningfully fight what's happening big picture through the courts. It's not the main front in this war.
November 19, 2025 at 3:23 PM
(And this is a daily occurrence).

Even when ICE doesn't do that kind of hostage negotiation abuse shit, they have a vast network of detention centers they can transfer people to—a process that is itself cruel and results in people being isolated from community, legal support, family.
November 19, 2025 at 3:22 PM
ICE officers get bonuses each time they bully someone into giving up rights & "self-deporting." I literally just got a call from someone kidnapped yesterday, who was told her family would also be arrested UNLESS they brought in her passport & she self-deported. Mind-bendingly cruel+abusive behavior.
November 19, 2025 at 3:20 PM
And in theory someone can still fight deportation from detention, but in reality because ICE can illegally kidnap people, they can control how their case goes generally using their vast caging capacity and utter contempt for "due process" (not that DP is so great, but its absence is...notable).
November 19, 2025 at 3:19 PM
So basically, the situation is that if someone wins the lottery and gets a habeas lawyer, they can probably win their freedom from illegal caging. But for the other 30,000 kidnapped each month (remember, there are only 282 who have won these cases so far that we know of), they're screwed.
November 19, 2025 at 3:17 PM
(It's slightly more complicated than that, but generally they can't)
November 19, 2025 at 3:15 PM
Why not a class action, you say? Isn't that what SCOTUS said to do in CASA when they killed universal injunctions?

Well no. As I said on @makcapitalism.bsky.social, the Supreme Court recently made clear people illegally kidnapped by ICE can't do class actions (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garland...).
Garland v. Aleman Gonzalez - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
November 19, 2025 at 3:15 PM
But habeas cases take a ton of work, and most immigration lawyers don't do habeas. (I just got trained in habeas for free through NIHI, shoutout, look for future trainings from them: cardozo.yu.edu/form/nihi-ny...).

So the vast, vast majority of people being illegally kidnapped don't get out.
Application for National Habeas Immigration Habeas Institute October 16-17 2025 NYC Training | Cardozo Law
cardozo.yu.edu
November 19, 2025 at 3:13 PM
But if you zoom out the problem is obvious.

Since ICE made up this rule, it has been arresting approximately 30,000 people/month (austinkocher.substack.com/p/number-of-...).

Many (most?) of these folks are being illegally subjected to mandatory detention. That means thousands could win habeas.
Number of Detained Immigrants with No Criminal History Continues to Grow
Here's the latest ICE detention data with key findings and graphics.
austinkocher.substack.com
November 19, 2025 at 3:12 PM
Those numbers are from a federal court decision yesterday.

Here's the decision: drive.google.com/file/d/1v8Bn...

And the appendix listing all 288 cases: drive.google.com/file/d/1g10f...

Sounds good right? ICE is doing lawless stuff, & judges (98% of them!) are striking it down & releasing people.
Appendix Cases.pdf
drive.google.com
November 19, 2025 at 3:09 PM
November 5, 2025 at 12:04 PM