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🌬️Doctrix Snow • NYC/FMTY
@mistresssnowphd.bsky.social
dominatrix in nyc • researcher @ ucla • writing a book on sex work & surveillance @ucpress.bsky.social

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I had the same thought, we can bring ours to chicago next year 😁
November 19, 2025 at 2:55 PM
lizza described their relationship as a “decade-long entanglement” in his post
November 19, 2025 at 12:17 PM
& nuzzi was 18. what is your point here exactly? nobody’s out here trying to say that olbermann’s not a creep.
November 18, 2025 at 7:34 PM
…moved her cross-country? from new jersey?

& college students are 20ish lol
November 18, 2025 at 7:21 PM
that’s how sugaring works tho lol
November 18, 2025 at 7:09 PM
& they mostly are, which is another reason nuzzi kept it a secret lol
November 18, 2025 at 5:21 PM
yeah it also gets fuzzy bc there’s only so much we can legislate about other people’s bodies & in pretty much every case these laws end up targeting queer people. criminality imo is less of a factor than, like, ethics & common sense
November 18, 2025 at 5:19 PM
I don’t think that “grooming” has a solid enough definition beyond “big age gap”; regardless, no wealthy 50-something is dating someone that young in any serious fashion. she was almost definitely a sugar baby, which would also be why she kept the relationship a secret
November 18, 2025 at 4:21 PM
oh for sure. maybe we’ll find out in her memoir 🫠
November 18, 2025 at 3:21 PM
lots of women (myself included!!) do sex work to pay for school, it’s way less weird to say you were a client than that you legitimately thought you had a healthy romantic relationship with a teenager 😵‍💫
November 18, 2025 at 3:14 PM
hrmph
November 18, 2025 at 2:51 PM
hey why is nyu catching strays!
November 18, 2025 at 2:50 PM
yeah fair lol

my point was that it’s def still creepy but I don’t think it was statutory rape
November 18, 2025 at 2:37 PM
yes if we’re going by a solid decade with lizza following a solid 4 years with olbermann but imo it’s more likely that she met olbermann when she started her political journalism career (age 20) or her earlier writing career (age 18)
November 18, 2025 at 2:35 PM
lizza implies there was some overlap + I think she was with lizza for a decade-ish; my guess is that olbermann was likely with her from ~20 or so
November 18, 2025 at 2:29 PM
I also “dated” a boomer when I was in my early 20s & nobody suffered under the delusion that I wasn’t sugaring except for maybe him
November 18, 2025 at 2:12 PM
to be clear I don’t give a shit about age gaps, I’m just irritated by the moral posturing from a guy who got #metoo’d while he was dating a junior colleague whom he’s now bravely chronicling how he rescued from sex work 🙄
November 18, 2025 at 1:59 PM
🥰
November 18, 2025 at 1:05 AM