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can justify declaring its British settler-descendant population to have no right to self determination. I feel that this matches the situation in neighbouring Patagonia & TdF, bar that the colonization of the Falklands is vastly different in scale & harm done to the conquest of the desert.
November 30, 2025 at 5:58 PM
can justify declaring its British settler-descendant population to have no right to self determination. I feel that this matches the situation in neighbouring Patagonia & TdF, bar that the colonization of the Falklands is vastly different in scale & harm done to the conquest of the desert.
seriously, comprehensively addressed - with what that then looks like radically varying based on circumstances. But those past egregious violations of human rights cannot then justify further violations of human rights. I do not think there is any reading of the prior history of the Falklands that
November 30, 2025 at 5:56 PM
seriously, comprehensively addressed - with what that then looks like radically varying based on circumstances. But those past egregious violations of human rights cannot then justify further violations of human rights. I do not think there is any reading of the prior history of the Falklands that
I do not think that this would then make it right for Indigenous nations to expell the descendants of settlers en masse or that those settler descendants should lack political rights or self determination. I think in such cases the wrong done to the prior population must be accounted for and
November 30, 2025 at 5:54 PM
I do not think that this would then make it right for Indigenous nations to expell the descendants of settlers en masse or that those settler descendants should lack political rights or self determination. I think in such cases the wrong done to the prior population must be accounted for and
They as in the British Falklanders or the Indigenous Patagonians?
Would that not then apply to the Indigenous nations of Patagonia & Argentina in general? As with other settler nations/colonies such as the US, Canada, NZ, etc indigenous sovereignty was either stolen or surrendered under duress.
Would that not then apply to the Indigenous nations of Patagonia & Argentina in general? As with other settler nations/colonies such as the US, Canada, NZ, etc indigenous sovereignty was either stolen or surrendered under duress.
November 30, 2025 at 5:53 PM
They as in the British Falklanders or the Indigenous Patagonians?
Would that not then apply to the Indigenous nations of Patagonia & Argentina in general? As with other settler nations/colonies such as the US, Canada, NZ, etc indigenous sovereignty was either stolen or surrendered under duress.
Would that not then apply to the Indigenous nations of Patagonia & Argentina in general? As with other settler nations/colonies such as the US, Canada, NZ, etc indigenous sovereignty was either stolen or surrendered under duress.
That all being said - a point I would make is that the problem with colonization is not that the colonized areas are (often) far-separated from the colonial metropole. The problem is that of genocide, expulsion, appropriation and ruling over subjugated populations without political rights.
November 30, 2025 at 5:50 PM
That all being said - a point I would make is that the problem with colonization is not that the colonized areas are (often) far-separated from the colonial metropole. The problem is that of genocide, expulsion, appropriation and ruling over subjugated populations without political rights.
I agree that there are alternate plausible worlds where the Falklands transferred to Argentine rule either directly or through an intermediary condominum phase - and that there's nothing inherent about Argentina itself that would prevent the Falklands from being incorporated with consent & respect
November 30, 2025 at 5:48 PM
I agree that there are alternate plausible worlds where the Falklands transferred to Argentine rule either directly or through an intermediary condominum phase - and that there's nothing inherent about Argentina itself that would prevent the Falklands from being incorporated with consent & respect
But that should note entail declaring the vast majority of the modern population of that area to have no claim to self determination or legitimate residence in the area by dint of their descent from settlers or having settled in land seized from indigenous communities admist genocide.
November 30, 2025 at 5:45 PM
But that should note entail declaring the vast majority of the modern population of that area to have no claim to self determination or legitimate residence in the area by dint of their descent from settlers or having settled in land seized from indigenous communities admist genocide.
We can also recognise that the conquest of the desert in Patagonia was genocidal in nature as were other settler expansions & incorporations into settler states/colonies. And in turn that we in the modern day have obligations to recognise that and strive to ensure justice for indigenous Patagonians/
November 30, 2025 at 5:44 PM
We can also recognise that the conquest of the desert in Patagonia was genocidal in nature as were other settler expansions & incorporations into settler states/colonies. And in turn that we in the modern day have obligations to recognise that and strive to ensure justice for indigenous Patagonians/
Between the colonization of the Falklands by the UK & now, permanent settler populations were 'implanted' in both the Falklands & neighbouring Patagonia/Tierra del Fuego. We can recognise the British settlement was predated by French, Spanish & Argentinian settlement in prior decades.
November 30, 2025 at 5:41 PM
Between the colonization of the Falklands by the UK & now, permanent settler populations were 'implanted' in both the Falklands & neighbouring Patagonia/Tierra del Fuego. We can recognise the British settlement was predated by French, Spanish & Argentinian settlement in prior decades.
There are countless cases of forced displacement from that era. I'll happily affirm that a right of return is worthwhile to enshrine even for expulsions centuries ago, but we shouldn't determine that the descendents of settler populations have no rights themselves.
November 30, 2025 at 5:36 PM
There are countless cases of forced displacement from that era. I'll happily affirm that a right of return is worthwhile to enshrine even for expulsions centuries ago, but we shouldn't determine that the descendents of settler populations have no rights themselves.
Many govts now & through the past have justified their own atrocities and criminal conduct on moral grounds. British imperial expansion & rule is littered w/ examples, I'll affirm that. But why then reject rather than recommit to the idea of morality guiding foreign policy & international relations?
November 30, 2025 at 5:32 PM
Many govts now & through the past have justified their own atrocities and criminal conduct on moral grounds. British imperial expansion & rule is littered w/ examples, I'll affirm that. But why then reject rather than recommit to the idea of morality guiding foreign policy & international relations?
My statement instead would be that the administration of any territory should be determined in accordance with the self determination of its population and the principles of the united nations. I think this is fully compatible with an anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist outlook.
November 30, 2025 at 5:25 PM
My statement instead would be that the administration of any territory should be determined in accordance with the self determination of its population and the principles of the united nations. I think this is fully compatible with an anti-imperialist and anti-colonialist outlook.
This comes down almost entirely to capability - Falklanders engaged in various degrees of passive and active resistance within the limitation of living under military rule alongside thousands of armed soldiers.
Why would it be incumbent on the UK govt to deescalate the conflict & lay down arms?
Why would it be incumbent on the UK govt to deescalate the conflict & lay down arms?
November 30, 2025 at 4:19 PM
This comes down almost entirely to capability - Falklanders engaged in various degrees of passive and active resistance within the limitation of living under military rule alongside thousands of armed soldiers.
Why would it be incumbent on the UK govt to deescalate the conflict & lay down arms?
Why would it be incumbent on the UK govt to deescalate the conflict & lay down arms?
Is whether the territory is an enclave a morally significant factor here?
November 30, 2025 at 4:14 PM
Is whether the territory is an enclave a morally significant factor here?
How do you determine this? The borders of nations are constructed by human beings, insofar as there are higher authorities to call on here they are in moral judgements such as determining legitimacy based on accordance with self determination & the principles of the united nations.
November 30, 2025 at 4:12 PM
How do you determine this? The borders of nations are constructed by human beings, insofar as there are higher authorities to call on here they are in moral judgements such as determining legitimacy based on accordance with self determination & the principles of the united nations.
Please explain why Guyana's sovereignty and claimed boundaries are different in legitimacy than those of Argentina or Venezuela
November 30, 2025 at 11:49 AM
Please explain why Guyana's sovereignty and claimed boundaries are different in legitimacy than those of Argentina or Venezuela
The reason people are confused by you saying this is that your previous comments stated that
1. The population of the Falklands shouldn't be able to choose the nation they're governed by - and
2. that the war was one the British govt chose
These clash with your stated principles
1. The population of the Falklands shouldn't be able to choose the nation they're governed by - and
2. that the war was one the British govt chose
These clash with your stated principles
November 30, 2025 at 1:45 AM
The reason people are confused by you saying this is that your previous comments stated that
1. The population of the Falklands shouldn't be able to choose the nation they're governed by - and
2. that the war was one the British govt chose
These clash with your stated principles
1. The population of the Falklands shouldn't be able to choose the nation they're governed by - and
2. that the war was one the British govt chose
These clash with your stated principles
Totally right on, and honestly the same sentiment rings true for countless other cases. Many branches of humanity leave no surviving descendants today, but how can anyone sincerely dismiss them as alien to us?
November 23, 2025 at 1:33 PM
Totally right on, and honestly the same sentiment rings true for countless other cases. Many branches of humanity leave no surviving descendants today, but how can anyone sincerely dismiss them as alien to us?
i mean. there's a lot of stuff that's gotta happen between now and un member: england, but leaving the english flag as a shibboleth for team racism between now & then really isn't viable. i just kinda worry that people aren't going to move on that until & unless wales and scot hand in their notices
October 24, 2025 at 9:01 AM
i mean. there's a lot of stuff that's gotta happen between now and un member: england, but leaving the english flag as a shibboleth for team racism between now & then really isn't viable. i just kinda worry that people aren't going to move on that until & unless wales and scot hand in their notices
not excited at just how behind we are on the project of just letting ethnic minorities Be English, but it looks like the rubber is really going to hit the road on that one way or another so the english left should really get their boots on about that!!
October 24, 2025 at 8:57 AM
not excited at just how behind we are on the project of just letting ethnic minorities Be English, but it looks like the rubber is really going to hit the road on that one way or another so the english left should really get their boots on about that!!
& like, clearly the MMP systems in Germany and NZ work well enough & they would be a relatively simple reform. But that assymetry with some MPs having a clear local link & others having a much broader one? I can see that having a rough reception
August 16, 2025 at 6:31 PM
& like, clearly the MMP systems in Germany and NZ work well enough & they would be a relatively simple reform. But that assymetry with some MPs having a clear local link & others having a much broader one? I can see that having a rough reception
Ends up being such a no win scenario for proportional representation frameworks, too - either you bite the bullet of ditching a meaningful constituency link or you accommodate it by increasing the total number of MPs
August 16, 2025 at 6:25 PM
Ends up being such a no win scenario for proportional representation frameworks, too - either you bite the bullet of ditching a meaningful constituency link or you accommodate it by increasing the total number of MPs
But to speak with moral clarity I think we then need to have definitions that can rebut those bad faith arguments. Apologies if I've been muddled but I hope I come across as genuine & trying to speak in a way that jives with your politics and moral principles.
August 11, 2025 at 2:42 AM
But to speak with moral clarity I think we then need to have definitions that can rebut those bad faith arguments. Apologies if I've been muddled but I hope I come across as genuine & trying to speak in a way that jives with your politics and moral principles.
sort of language and saying that actually Israeli Jews are indigenous versus Arab Palestinians are colonisers - that's going to land flat w many people like us who'll think of Herzl & explicit framing of the Zionist mission as one of colonial settlement
August 11, 2025 at 2:40 AM
sort of language and saying that actually Israeli Jews are indigenous versus Arab Palestinians are colonisers - that's going to land flat w many people like us who'll think of Herzl & explicit framing of the Zionist mission as one of colonial settlement
For me I feel treating that impulse in us with the seriousness it demands asks us to ask these questions, to ask when exactly a colonized population can decide a settler population has to leave & how to define both. I'm sure you know many Zionists have a strategy of appropriating this
August 11, 2025 at 2:37 AM
For me I feel treating that impulse in us with the seriousness it demands asks us to ask these questions, to ask when exactly a colonized population can decide a settler population has to leave & how to define both. I'm sure you know many Zionists have a strategy of appropriating this