8/8 Anyways, it's nice paper and a refreshing read in the era of LLMs: arxiv.org/abs/2510.04871

Without embracing Weber, purely observationally from fairly immersive travel, I also notice the valorisation of clock time and regimentation is higher in protestant than Catholic cultures as a whole. 9-5 exists in Switzerland and Spain, but it is weighted very differently. Certainly a nuanced theme!

There is a huge difference I think in a 9-5 dictated by an individual or organisation, and one predicted by the seasons, the markets, the children, the organic necessities of life. In UK for instance, waking up at 11am is intrinsically if vaguely immoral, a bit shameful. In Greenland it's fine.

When I think about it it's not primarily about the keeping of time but an orientation and valoration of time. Maaaai women in particular had quite a regimented day, and clock time was occasionally used and certainly compatible. But it was event oriented rather than command oriented, more elastic.

Makes sense, I appreciate the reply. Anecdotally I find even now the rhythms and ethics of time are less regimented and more organic the further from industrialised society. I found that in my time among indigenous communities, and Global South, consistently in 4 continents and a dozen countries.

I also think education will be the frontier where this happens first, and that in the (quite) long term we will develop similar post-pathologising approaches to diversity in cognitive, emotional and life presentations and experiences, and a lot of suffering will vanish + a lot of capacity released.

This is great. For about 20y I've been predicting that we'll first multiply diagnostic categories and diagnosed people, until teachers would be confronted with vast enough and frequent enough diversity of challenges, that we would arrive at universal design and diagnoses would become less relevant.

I'm with @ethanlandes.bsky.social's read. Capitalism existed before but academic publishing was not remotely as monetisable as now. Perverse incentives of publish or perish were lower and narrower. We didn't have industrial scale citation farms, or a comparable pay-to-publish addressable market.