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I think it's more like deciding what kind of society you want your great great grandchildren to live in. You really don't know much about them, either.
November 30, 2025 at 7:08 AM
I think it's more like deciding what kind of society you want your great great grandchildren to live in. You really don't know much about them, either.
It looks bad, doesn't it!
November 30, 2025 at 7:02 AM
It looks bad, doesn't it!
I suppose that kind of makes sense. If you don't have perfect empathy, then your utility matters more to you than someone else's utility. So you wouldn't want to live under a system where your utility could at any time be sacrificed for someone else's benefit.
November 30, 2025 at 6:57 AM
I suppose that kind of makes sense. If you don't have perfect empathy, then your utility matters more to you than someone else's utility. So you wouldn't want to live under a system where your utility could at any time be sacrificed for someone else's benefit.
That individual isn't weighing one life against another. Their job is to find something that all "potential lives" would accept as just.
November 30, 2025 at 6:49 AM
That individual isn't weighing one life against another. Their job is to find something that all "potential lives" would accept as just.
You said you wanted to see data before regulating speeds to something under 25 mph. Which is my reason, too. I want to see actual data regarding the actual regulation.
Because some regulations, like limiting bikes to 10 mph, probably aren't worth the theoretical safety benefits.
Because some regulations, like limiting bikes to 10 mph, probably aren't worth the theoretical safety benefits.
November 29, 2025 at 6:34 PM
You said you wanted to see data before regulating speeds to something under 25 mph. Which is my reason, too. I want to see actual data regarding the actual regulation.
Because some regulations, like limiting bikes to 10 mph, probably aren't worth the theoretical safety benefits.
Because some regulations, like limiting bikes to 10 mph, probably aren't worth the theoretical safety benefits.
The same reason you are reluctant to limit ebikes to 18mph or 10mph, when we know slower speeds are safer.
November 29, 2025 at 6:24 PM
The same reason you are reluctant to limit ebikes to 18mph or 10mph, when we know slower speeds are safer.
Bikes, like any vehicle, are safer when moving slower.
Your regular bike could be made safer too. If the gear ratio were changed, 15 mph would take too much effort. Should we regulate that too in the name of safety?
Your regular bike could be made safer too. If the gear ratio were changed, 15 mph would take too much effort. Should we regulate that too in the name of safety?
November 29, 2025 at 6:23 PM
Bikes, like any vehicle, are safer when moving slower.
Your regular bike could be made safer too. If the gear ratio were changed, 15 mph would take too much effort. Should we regulate that too in the name of safety?
Your regular bike could be made safer too. If the gear ratio were changed, 15 mph would take too much effort. Should we regulate that too in the name of safety?
I think that "changing hood design" is like "limiting e-bikes to 18 mph". It may or may not be worthwhile.
November 29, 2025 at 6:15 PM
I think that "changing hood design" is like "limiting e-bikes to 18 mph". It may or may not be worthwhile.
Yes, they do. For example, EVs are required to play warning sounds at slow speeds.
November 29, 2025 at 6:05 PM
Yes, they do. For example, EVs are required to play warning sounds at slow speeds.
They would be less dangerous if they were limited to 10 mph. Do you want that instead? I don't.
November 29, 2025 at 6:02 PM
They would be less dangerous if they were limited to 10 mph. Do you want that instead? I don't.
Do you disagree that bicycles aren't regulated enough? They injure pedestrians too. Regulating their top gear ratios could make them safer.
November 29, 2025 at 5:52 PM
Do you disagree that bicycles aren't regulated enough? They injure pedestrians too. Regulating their top gear ratios could make them safer.
It's ok, when your gut feelings are contradicted by math it's perfectly normal for you to lash out.
November 29, 2025 at 5:49 PM
It's ok, when your gut feelings are contradicted by math it's perfectly normal for you to lash out.
Vehicles ARE regulated!
In fact, the case for more regulation is stronger for bikes than EVs. And I say that as another e-bike owner. They're barely regulated.
But safety isn't the only thing. Even "analog" bicycles are safer when they are slower, but who wants a deliberately slowed road bike?
In fact, the case for more regulation is stronger for bikes than EVs. And I say that as another e-bike owner. They're barely regulated.
But safety isn't the only thing. Even "analog" bicycles are safer when they are slower, but who wants a deliberately slowed road bike?
November 29, 2025 at 5:45 PM
Vehicles ARE regulated!
In fact, the case for more regulation is stronger for bikes than EVs. And I say that as another e-bike owner. They're barely regulated.
But safety isn't the only thing. Even "analog" bicycles are safer when they are slower, but who wants a deliberately slowed road bike?
In fact, the case for more regulation is stronger for bikes than EVs. And I say that as another e-bike owner. They're barely regulated.
But safety isn't the only thing. Even "analog" bicycles are safer when they are slower, but who wants a deliberately slowed road bike?
A Honda Civic can reach 30mph in two seconds. A fast EV takes between one and two.
So there is approximately a half second difference between the Civic and the EV. The average speed while accelerating is 15mph.
A car doesn't cover much ground over half a second at 15 mph.
So there is approximately a half second difference between the Civic and the EV. The average speed while accelerating is 15mph.
A car doesn't cover much ground over half a second at 15 mph.
November 29, 2025 at 5:28 PM
A Honda Civic can reach 30mph in two seconds. A fast EV takes between one and two.
So there is approximately a half second difference between the Civic and the EV. The average speed while accelerating is 15mph.
A car doesn't cover much ground over half a second at 15 mph.
So there is approximately a half second difference between the Civic and the EV. The average speed while accelerating is 15mph.
A car doesn't cover much ground over half a second at 15 mph.
Cars don't accelerate to 60mph where pedestrians congregate.
They might accelerate to 30mph, for example in a parking lot. But an EV driver won't cover "substantially more ground" than an ICE driver.
They might accelerate to 30mph, for example in a parking lot. But an EV driver won't cover "substantially more ground" than an ICE driver.
November 29, 2025 at 5:12 PM
Cars don't accelerate to 60mph where pedestrians congregate.
They might accelerate to 30mph, for example in a parking lot. But an EV driver won't cover "substantially more ground" than an ICE driver.
They might accelerate to 30mph, for example in a parking lot. But an EV driver won't cover "substantially more ground" than an ICE driver.
I prefer the measurable benefits of EVs over the unmeasurable and possibly nonexistent benefits of ICEs.
November 29, 2025 at 4:56 PM
I prefer the measurable benefits of EVs over the unmeasurable and possibly nonexistent benefits of ICEs.
I haven't seen any statistics to suggest that pedestrians or bicyclists are at greater risk from heavy sedans than light sedans.
Again, different story when two cars are involved.
Again, different story when two cars are involved.
November 29, 2025 at 4:52 PM
I haven't seen any statistics to suggest that pedestrians or bicyclists are at greater risk from heavy sedans than light sedans.
Again, different story when two cars are involved.
Again, different story when two cars are involved.
They can both accelerate to 30 in a couple seconds. Even if one reaches 30mph a hundred milliseconds before the other, I don't think that has a practical effect on safety.
November 29, 2025 at 4:41 PM
They can both accelerate to 30 in a couple seconds. Even if one reaches 30mph a hundred milliseconds before the other, I don't think that has a practical effect on safety.
That's not because of their weight. It has to do with their form. A taller front end is more dangerous because it can directly strike the chest, regardless of weight.
November 29, 2025 at 4:39 PM
That's not because of their weight. It has to do with their form. A taller front end is more dangerous because it can directly strike the chest, regardless of weight.
But yes, driving a lighter car is potentially more dangerous than driving a heavier car. That's one reason why many people prefer driving heavier cars.
November 29, 2025 at 4:34 PM
But yes, driving a lighter car is potentially more dangerous than driving a heavier car. That's one reason why many people prefer driving heavier cars.
Deadlier when striking other cars. We were talking about pedestrians.
November 29, 2025 at 4:32 PM
Deadlier when striking other cars. We were talking about pedestrians.
If you're a pedestrian, the weight difference doesn't matter (ie no human weighs enough to absorb the impact of a typical ICE).
And a car hitting you at 30mph is already fast enough to likely kill you. ICE cars can easily reach 30 in a couple seconds.
And a car hitting you at 30mph is already fast enough to likely kill you. ICE cars can easily reach 30 in a couple seconds.
November 29, 2025 at 4:27 PM
If you're a pedestrian, the weight difference doesn't matter (ie no human weighs enough to absorb the impact of a typical ICE).
And a car hitting you at 30mph is already fast enough to likely kill you. ICE cars can easily reach 30 in a couple seconds.
And a car hitting you at 30mph is already fast enough to likely kill you. ICE cars can easily reach 30 in a couple seconds.
Yes, but most cars can accelerate to fatal speeds in a couple seconds, it doesn't matter if they are EVs
November 29, 2025 at 4:17 PM
Yes, but most cars can accelerate to fatal speeds in a couple seconds, it doesn't matter if they are EVs