Eoin
@eoini3s.bsky.social
Politics and (anti) brexit. Likes old cars and 2 wheeled transport. Vegetarian BBQ specialist. Autism dad. Chilli lover.
Support for a 'closer relationship' shows that a lot of people:
1. Don't understand that there is no beneficial closer relationship without SM or CU.
2. Are influenced by politicians & campaigners promising to make brexit work (or similar), conditioning people to think that brexit could work.
1. Don't understand that there is no beneficial closer relationship without SM or CU.
2. Are influenced by politicians & campaigners promising to make brexit work (or similar), conditioning people to think that brexit could work.
December 2, 2025 at 8:37 PM
Support for a 'closer relationship' shows that a lot of people:
1. Don't understand that there is no beneficial closer relationship without SM or CU.
2. Are influenced by politicians & campaigners promising to make brexit work (or similar), conditioning people to think that brexit could work.
1. Don't understand that there is no beneficial closer relationship without SM or CU.
2. Are influenced by politicians & campaigners promising to make brexit work (or similar), conditioning people to think that brexit could work.
Keeping brexit is proving to be a winning strategy for Labour too. You would think that one of the 2 'major' parties would have worked out how to save themselves by now.
December 2, 2025 at 4:19 PM
Keeping brexit is proving to be a winning strategy for Labour too. You would think that one of the 2 'major' parties would have worked out how to save themselves by now.
By doing that, he implies that there is a solution to the implementation, which logically ends up with Labour owning the problem politically.
December 2, 2025 at 11:39 AM
By doing that, he implies that there is a solution to the implementation, which logically ends up with Labour owning the problem politically.
And by promising to 'make brexit work' with the 'reset', he is effectively owning the problem for which he is offering no solution. Failure guaranteed. Political madness.
December 2, 2025 at 11:37 AM
And by promising to 'make brexit work' with the 'reset', he is effectively owning the problem for which he is offering no solution. Failure guaranteed. Political madness.
All I can see from the rear view is the number plate and left side bumper on the piss.
December 2, 2025 at 9:12 AM
All I can see from the rear view is the number plate and left side bumper on the piss.
Absolutely. Labour are acting like public sector administrators concerned with meeting a target on a year by year basis within the constraints that they have (politically) set.
December 2, 2025 at 9:09 AM
Absolutely. Labour are acting like public sector administrators concerned with meeting a target on a year by year basis within the constraints that they have (politically) set.
The UK govt doesn't get to chose what it wants.
December 1, 2025 at 7:56 PM
The UK govt doesn't get to chose what it wants.
We're not going to agree because you seem convinced that the EU will roll over on something like FoM and then you'll be happy. I'm convinced that you're wasting your time. I also think that this kind of campaigning is a diversion from what is important, which is a bad thing in itself.
December 1, 2025 at 7:08 PM
We're not going to agree because you seem convinced that the EU will roll over on something like FoM and then you'll be happy. I'm convinced that you're wasting your time. I also think that this kind of campaigning is a diversion from what is important, which is a bad thing in itself.
Your argument is based on getting something you want that is not on offer. The same as anyone else who doesn't like specific things that brexit has done that effect them personally. The EU isn't interested, they have options, but not picking only the bit's that you're interested in.
December 1, 2025 at 7:06 PM
Your argument is based on getting something you want that is not on offer. The same as anyone else who doesn't like specific things that brexit has done that effect them personally. The EU isn't interested, they have options, but not picking only the bit's that you're interested in.
We don't hold any cards.
December 1, 2025 at 6:52 PM
We don't hold any cards.
It's only bespoke because it evolved that way. In reality, it's not bespoke, it's EFTA. You want FoM, campaign for EFTA.
December 1, 2025 at 6:51 PM
It's only bespoke because it evolved that way. In reality, it's not bespoke, it's EFTA. You want FoM, campaign for EFTA.
Trying to 'make brexit work' by asking for special deals just delays the inevitable rejoin and makes the pain worse in the meantime.
December 1, 2025 at 6:50 PM
Trying to 'make brexit work' by asking for special deals just delays the inevitable rejoin and makes the pain worse in the meantime.
The Swiss were already prevented from stripping FoM out of their multi-treaty deal. The separate bits are not separate at all, they are all interdependent.
December 1, 2025 at 6:48 PM
The Swiss were already prevented from stripping FoM out of their multi-treaty deal. The separate bits are not separate at all, they are all interdependent.
You have zero QED that an arrangment made historically that mostly mimics SM is a precedent for cherry picking parts of SM in the future.
December 1, 2025 at 6:47 PM
You have zero QED that an arrangment made historically that mostly mimics SM is a precedent for cherry picking parts of SM in the future.
My new boiler is being fitted next week, the kick is large and painful.
December 1, 2025 at 6:46 PM
My new boiler is being fitted next week, the kick is large and painful.
No, because the Swiss model is de facto SM.
December 1, 2025 at 6:44 PM
No, because the Swiss model is de facto SM.
Our government doesn't need to find solutions, the solutions are there. We could ask for a CU, with all associated obligations. We could ask for EFTA, with all associated obligations. We could apply to rejoin, with all associated obligations.
December 1, 2025 at 6:44 PM
Our government doesn't need to find solutions, the solutions are there. We could ask for a CU, with all associated obligations. We could ask for EFTA, with all associated obligations. We could apply to rejoin, with all associated obligations.
Brexit didn't destroy the EU because the EU didn't allow cherry picking. Hard brexit didn't / won't destroy the EU, we chose our option from the menu.
December 1, 2025 at 6:27 PM
Brexit didn't destroy the EU because the EU didn't allow cherry picking. Hard brexit didn't / won't destroy the EU, we chose our option from the menu.
Start with EFTA. Rather more likely to succeed than trying to cherry pick.
December 1, 2025 at 6:26 PM
Start with EFTA. Rather more likely to succeed than trying to cherry pick.
Apart from Switzerland, which has created an SM like arrangement over decades, the EU has no FoM outside of EU / EFTA members. The Swiss arrangement is a hangover from the past - now they would just be expected to join the SM via EFTA. The same as we could do as a stepping stone to rejoin.
December 1, 2025 at 6:25 PM
Apart from Switzerland, which has created an SM like arrangement over decades, the EU has no FoM outside of EU / EFTA members. The Swiss arrangement is a hangover from the past - now they would just be expected to join the SM via EFTA. The same as we could do as a stepping stone to rejoin.
Not with the EU, since FoM stands with the other freedoms as part of the SM.
December 1, 2025 at 6:16 PM
Not with the EU, since FoM stands with the other freedoms as part of the SM.
Special deals was what brexit was all about - getting what we wanted with no obligations. The EU wouldn't play ball with that, so we ended up with nothing. Not that I'm blaming the EU, the precedent of cherry picking would destroy the EU, so it was pretty obvious from day 1 what would happen.
December 1, 2025 at 6:15 PM
Special deals was what brexit was all about - getting what we wanted with no obligations. The EU wouldn't play ball with that, so we ended up with nothing. Not that I'm blaming the EU, the precedent of cherry picking would destroy the EU, so it was pretty obvious from day 1 what would happen.
That's our system, so called democracy. Not that it makes any difference now, we left as hard brexit and the only way FoM is coming back without rejoin is SM via EFTA.
December 1, 2025 at 6:11 PM
That's our system, so called democracy. Not that it makes any difference now, we left as hard brexit and the only way FoM is coming back without rejoin is SM via EFTA.
We voted to leave, so no FoM unless we stayed in / joined the SM. Unfortunately, since 2016 our politicians have stuck with hard brexit - campaign against that, not for special deals.
December 1, 2025 at 6:01 PM
We voted to leave, so no FoM unless we stayed in / joined the SM. Unfortunately, since 2016 our politicians have stuck with hard brexit - campaign against that, not for special deals.
..... when we voted brexit and then elected Johnson with a huge majority. Rejoin is the answer to all brexit related questions.
December 1, 2025 at 5:59 PM
..... when we voted brexit and then elected Johnson with a huge majority. Rejoin is the answer to all brexit related questions.