iirc this was his first appearance on a Pod Save show and despite Lovett being weirdly adversarial most of the comments were people who'd clearly never heard of him before saying how much they liked what he said

I believe it was this one
youtu.be/lIv5oPIDmO8?...

Hasan interview was very revealing in this way

does it at least have algorithmic recommendations? I've never listened to Spotify's custom playlists but the Discover Weekly playlist was occasionally pretty great