Today In Dave Stieb History
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Detailing the history of Dave Stieb, legendary #BlueJays pitcher and Hall of Famer (Canadian Baseball HoF 2005; San Jose Sports HoF 2023)
December 11, 1981 - 🚨 Dave Stieb and his agent are looking for more than an arbitration biut with the #BlueJays. And why not? He just had the 1st winning season by a pitcher (and a 10th place MVP vote). But it won't go well and be another thorn in the relationship. 🚨
December 12, 2025 at 1:32 AM
December 11, 1981 - 🚨 Dave Stieb and his agent are looking for more than an arbitration biut with the #BlueJays. And why not? He just had the 1st winning season by a pitcher (and a 10th place MVP vote). But it won't go well and be another thorn in the relationship. 🚨
3/3: ...here the Phillies are in 1981, in Stieb’s 3rd season (although because he debuted in June 1979 & the #MLB strike in 1981, he had had only one 162-game season).
Imagine if then #BlueJays GM, Pat Gillick, had let go of Stieb and Jim Clancy/Alfredo Griffin before 1982? 🤯
Imagine if then #BlueJays GM, Pat Gillick, had let go of Stieb and Jim Clancy/Alfredo Griffin before 1982? 🤯
December 8, 2025 at 1:15 AM
2/3: Okay, "The Pope" is what they called the Phillies' GM, Paul Owens, presumably because he was the architect of Philadelphia's first World Series win, in 1980, for the franchise. The Phillies were the franchise throughout the 1980s who chased Stieb the most, and...
December 8, 2025 at 1:15 AM
2/3: Okay, "The Pope" is what they called the Phillies' GM, Paul Owens, presumably because he was the architect of Philadelphia's first World Series win, in 1980, for the franchise. The Phillies were the franchise throughout the 1980s who chased Stieb the most, and...
2/2: We thank the Blue Jays for their usual service in promoting their greatest players.
Carlos Delgado's inclusion was accomplished with exactly zero effort by the front office and its alumni dept.
(The less said about Dave Stieb the better. As usual!)
TABLE: eligible batters
Carlos Delgado's inclusion was accomplished with exactly zero effort by the front office and its alumni dept.
(The less said about Dave Stieb the better. As usual!)
TABLE: eligible batters
December 7, 2025 at 11:21 PM
2/2: We thank the Blue Jays for their usual service in promoting their greatest players.
Carlos Delgado's inclusion was accomplished with exactly zero effort by the front office and its alumni dept.
(The less said about Dave Stieb the better. As usual!)
TABLE: eligible batters
Carlos Delgado's inclusion was accomplished with exactly zero effort by the front office and its alumni dept.
(The less said about Dave Stieb the better. As usual!)
TABLE: eligible batters
December 7, 2025 (1/2) - Just a friendly reminder of what's at stake - in our familiar chart form - at 7:30 p.m. EST, as the @baseballhall.org's Era Committee announces its 2026 vote results.
No matter what, there'll be tears 'n' jeers. That's how it works.
TABLE: eligible pitchers
No matter what, there'll be tears 'n' jeers. That's how it works.
TABLE: eligible pitchers
December 7, 2025 at 11:21 PM
December 7, 2025 (1/2) - Just a friendly reminder of what's at stake - in our familiar chart form - at 7:30 p.m. EST, as the @baseballhall.org's Era Committee announces its 2026 vote results.
No matter what, there'll be tears 'n' jeers. That's how it works.
TABLE: eligible pitchers
No matter what, there'll be tears 'n' jeers. That's how it works.
TABLE: eligible pitchers
2/2: Stieb's first-ever injury that kept him out for two-thirds of the 1991 season had quite the ripple effect. The #BlueJays unload prospects for Tom Candiotti, it gives Juan Guzman his MLB shot, but Stieb not a sure thing for early 1992 leads to the signing of you-know-who.
December 6, 2025 at 1:11 AM
2/2: Stieb's first-ever injury that kept him out for two-thirds of the 1991 season had quite the ripple effect. The #BlueJays unload prospects for Tom Candiotti, it gives Juan Guzman his MLB shot, but Stieb not a sure thing for early 1992 leads to the signing of you-know-who.
December 5, 1991 (1/2) - 🚨 "Dave Stieb could be back on the pitching mound in 3 months."
Dr. Arthur White trims the ruptured disk in Stieb’s back, from that freak collision on May 22. Optimism abounds. Read on... 🧵 🚨
Dr. Arthur White trims the ruptured disk in Stieb’s back, from that freak collision on May 22. Optimism abounds. Read on... 🧵 🚨
December 6, 2025 at 1:11 AM
December 5, 1991 (1/2) - 🚨 "Dave Stieb could be back on the pitching mound in 3 months."
Dr. Arthur White trims the ruptured disk in Stieb’s back, from that freak collision on May 22. Optimism abounds. Read on... 🧵 🚨
Dr. Arthur White trims the ruptured disk in Stieb’s back, from that freak collision on May 22. Optimism abounds. Read on... 🧵 🚨
3/3: ...that emanated from Stieb's camp which slipped into public view. Lemanczyk said he could help Stieb and gave him an out if he wasn't going to use him. Stieb didn't, and moved onto agent, Bob LaMonte, who clinched a deal in 1983. And then Comte and Lemanczyk came for Stieb.
December 4, 2025 at 2:10 AM
3/3: ...that emanated from Stieb's camp which slipped into public view. Lemanczyk said he could help Stieb and gave him an out if he wasn't going to use him. Stieb didn't, and moved onto agent, Bob LaMonte, who clinched a deal in 1983. And then Comte and Lemanczyk came for Stieb.
2/3: Stieb had been hamstrung with an ineffective agent, Steve Comte, from his MLB debut in 1979 to 1982. *Lots* of bad will from auto-renewals, failed arbitration cases, and no progress on contract extensions (as well as 4 losing seasons), contributed to much of the vitriol...
December 4, 2025 at 2:10 AM
2/3: Stieb had been hamstrung with an ineffective agent, Steve Comte, from his MLB debut in 1979 to 1982. *Lots* of bad will from auto-renewals, failed arbitration cases, and no progress on contract extensions (as well as 4 losing seasons), contributed to much of the vitriol...
December 3, 1983 (1/3) - 🚨 Victory! The first of the two agents suing Dave Stieb (🤯?) in the winter of 1983 gets their lawsuit dismissed. And it's former #BlueJays teammate turned agent, Dave Lemanczyk. WTF? Read on... 🧵 🚨
December 4, 2025 at 2:10 AM
December 3, 1983 (1/3) - 🚨 Victory! The first of the two agents suing Dave Stieb (🤯?) in the winter of 1983 gets their lawsuit dismissed. And it's former #BlueJays teammate turned agent, Dave Lemanczyk. WTF? Read on... 🧵 🚨
2/3: Nobody enjoyed the '98 Dave Stieb comeback more than us, after 5 years away, but it had an unintended consequence on his Baseball Hall of Fame chances. Today in '03, the @baseballhall.org ballot is released. Stieb is on it, but as Jon Bois explains, it wouldn't go well...
December 3, 2025 at 1:18 AM
2/3: Nobody enjoyed the '98 Dave Stieb comeback more than us, after 5 years away, but it had an unintended consequence on his Baseball Hall of Fame chances. Today in '03, the @baseballhall.org ballot is released. Stieb is on it, but as Jon Bois explains, it wouldn't go well...
December 2, 2003 (1/3) - 🚨
The 2025 Eras Committee ignoring of Dave Stieb for the @baseballhall.org of Fame is as bitter a taste as when he hit the writers ballot in '03 (thanks to '98 comeback), only to not make the 5% cut to stay a 2nd year. Jon Bois explains the details in the video below... 🧵 🚨
The 2025 Eras Committee ignoring of Dave Stieb for the @baseballhall.org of Fame is as bitter a taste as when he hit the writers ballot in '03 (thanks to '98 comeback), only to not make the 5% cut to stay a 2nd year. Jon Bois explains the details in the video below... 🧵 🚨
December 3, 2025 at 1:18 AM
December 2, 2003 (1/3) - 🚨
The 2025 Eras Committee ignoring of Dave Stieb for the @baseballhall.org of Fame is as bitter a taste as when he hit the writers ballot in '03 (thanks to '98 comeback), only to not make the 5% cut to stay a 2nd year. Jon Bois explains the details in the video below... 🧵 🚨
The 2025 Eras Committee ignoring of Dave Stieb for the @baseballhall.org of Fame is as bitter a taste as when he hit the writers ballot in '03 (thanks to '98 comeback), only to not make the 5% cut to stay a 2nd year. Jon Bois explains the details in the video below... 🧵 🚨
2/2: Below is Whitaker v. Stieb, and Stieb v. everyone.
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Lou's OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) was a paltry .483, well below his career .789 OPS. (Fun fact: Lou faced Stieb in his 2nd career start.)
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Lou's OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) was a paltry .483, well below his career .789 OPS. (Fun fact: Lou faced Stieb in his 2nd career start.)
December 2, 2025 at 1:15 AM
2/2: Below is Whitaker v. Stieb, and Stieb v. everyone.
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Lou's OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) was a paltry .483, well below his career .789 OPS. (Fun fact: Lou faced Stieb in his 2nd career start.)
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Lou's OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) was a paltry .483, well below his career .789 OPS. (Fun fact: Lou faced Stieb in his 2nd career start.)
⚾️ #StiebMatchUpMondays winner is...Lou Whitaker!
Lou's time vs. Stieb was not very sweet. Lou had 87 PAs against Stieb and of all the players with 60 or more PAs, Whitaker finished with the 2nd worst OPS. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
Lou's time vs. Stieb was not very sweet. Lou had 87 PAs against Stieb and of all the players with 60 or more PAs, Whitaker finished with the 2nd worst OPS. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
December 2, 2025 at 1:15 AM
⚾️ #StiebMatchUpMondays winner is...Lou Whitaker!
Lou's time vs. Stieb was not very sweet. Lou had 87 PAs against Stieb and of all the players with 60 or more PAs, Whitaker finished with the 2nd worst OPS. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
Lou's time vs. Stieb was not very sweet. Lou had 87 PAs against Stieb and of all the players with 60 or more PAs, Whitaker finished with the 2nd worst OPS. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
2/2: Stieb roared back after 2 subpar years in 1986 and 1987. He made the All-Star Game, won 17, had an ERA of 3.04, and finished off 1988 with those back-to-back lost no-hitters with 2 outs in the 9th inning (and a shutout before those two).
November 30, 2025 at 1:33 AM
2/2: Stieb roared back after 2 subpar years in 1986 and 1987. He made the All-Star Game, won 17, had an ERA of 3.04, and finished off 1988 with those back-to-back lost no-hitters with 2 outs in the 9th inning (and a shutout before those two).
November 29, 1988 (1/2) - 🚨 Dave Stieb and Fred McGriff win #BlueJays Pitcher and Player Of The Year; a celebration of Stieb's return to domination. Read on... 🧵 🚨
November 30, 2025 at 1:33 AM
November 29, 1988 (1/2) - 🚨 Dave Stieb and Fred McGriff win #BlueJays Pitcher and Player Of The Year; a celebration of Stieb's return to domination. Read on... 🧵 🚨
3/3: ...Damaso Garcia in 1982 (even though Stieb won A.L. Pitcher Of The Year). Stieb wins 1983 Pitcher and then loses in 1984 to Doyle and then laughably finishes FIFTH on the Jays in 1985. Stieb wins for 1988-90 before Roy Halladay wins his 6th in 2008.
November 28, 2025 at 1:12 AM
3/3: ...Damaso Garcia in 1982 (even though Stieb won A.L. Pitcher Of The Year). Stieb wins 1983 Pitcher and then loses in 1984 to Doyle and then laughably finishes FIFTH on the Jays in 1985. Stieb wins for 1988-90 before Roy Halladay wins his 6th in 2008.
2/3: It's Stieb's 5th Pitcher Of The Year Award in his 11th full season. Still, that seems low, so why? Well, the #BlueJays writers (who vote for this award) only separated the award for position player and pitcher in 1983. So, Stieb won overall MVP in 1981 and somehow lost to...
November 28, 2025 at 1:12 AM
2/3: It's Stieb's 5th Pitcher Of The Year Award in his 11th full season. Still, that seems low, so why? Well, the #BlueJays writers (who vote for this award) only separated the award for position player and pitcher in 1983. So, Stieb won overall MVP in 1981 and somehow lost to...
November 27, 1990 (1/3) - 🚨 These happy fellows finish 1-2 in the voting for #BlueJays Pitcher Of The Year. It's Dave Stieb 5th win with David Wells finishing a distant second. Read on... 🧵 🚨
November 28, 2025 at 1:12 AM
November 27, 1990 (1/3) - 🚨 These happy fellows finish 1-2 in the voting for #BlueJays Pitcher Of The Year. It's Dave Stieb 5th win with David Wells finishing a distant second. Read on... 🧵 🚨
2/2: Stieb's second half - a 7-3, 3.05 split keying the Jays' respectable 21-27 post-strike finish - heralds a five-year stretch in which he's clearly the AL's best pitcher.
Last month, Stieb was the first pitcher to be named #BlueJays MVP by the Toronto media.
Last month, Stieb was the first pitcher to be named #BlueJays MVP by the Toronto media.
November 26, 2025 at 1:48 AM
2/2: Stieb's second half - a 7-3, 3.05 split keying the Jays' respectable 21-27 post-strike finish - heralds a five-year stretch in which he's clearly the AL's best pitcher.
Last month, Stieb was the first pitcher to be named #BlueJays MVP by the Toronto media.
Last month, Stieb was the first pitcher to be named #BlueJays MVP by the Toronto media.
November 25, 1981 (1/2) - 🚨 Dave Stieb is the first Blue Jay to get a MVP vote (10th place) finishing in a 27th-place tie with George Brett for 1981 AL MVP. Stieb’s 4.4 WAR (a prorated 6.7) ranks 3rd for AL pitchers in ‘81 and ties for 9th among all players. Read on... 🧵 🚨
November 26, 2025 at 1:48 AM
November 25, 1981 (1/2) - 🚨 Dave Stieb is the first Blue Jay to get a MVP vote (10th place) finishing in a 27th-place tie with George Brett for 1981 AL MVP. Stieb’s 4.4 WAR (a prorated 6.7) ranks 3rd for AL pitchers in ‘81 and ties for 9th among all players. Read on... 🧵 🚨
2/2: Below is Murray v. Stieb, and Stieb v. everyone.
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Murray had the 2nd best OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) at .989 (only bettered by Mattingly) with a .310 BAA & 5 HRs (3rd most, the most being 6).
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Murray had the 2nd best OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) at .989 (only bettered by Mattingly) with a .310 BAA & 5 HRs (3rd most, the most being 6).
November 25, 2025 at 1:11 AM
2/2: Below is Murray v. Stieb, and Stieb v. everyone.
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Murray had the 2nd best OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) at .989 (only bettered by Mattingly) with a .310 BAA & 5 HRs (3rd most, the most being 6).
Hitters had a .667 OPS season average v. Stieb, with the league's average of .725.
Murray had the 2nd best OPS v. Stieb (min. 60 PAs) at .989 (only bettered by Mattingly) with a .310 BAA & 5 HRs (3rd most, the most being 6).
⚾️ #StiebMatchUpMondays winner this week is...Eddie Murray!
Stieb and Murray faced each other 67 times...the first being Stieb's first start on June 29, 1979; the 7th batter Stieb ever faced in the #MLB. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
Stieb and Murray faced each other 67 times...the first being Stieb's first start on June 29, 1979; the 7th batter Stieb ever faced in the #MLB. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
November 25, 2025 at 1:11 AM
⚾️ #StiebMatchUpMondays winner this week is...Eddie Murray!
Stieb and Murray faced each other 67 times...the first being Stieb's first start on June 29, 1979; the 7th batter Stieb ever faced in the #MLB. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️
Stieb and Murray faced each other 67 times...the first being Stieb's first start on June 29, 1979; the 7th batter Stieb ever faced in the #MLB. Let's dive into more... 🧵 ⚾️