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November 10, 2025 at 9:46 PM
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A written order will follow.
November 10, 2025 at 9:44 PM
A written order will follow.
Reposted by Chris Geidner
WHAT HAPPENED?
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
November 10, 2025 at 9:43 PM
WHAT HAPPENED?
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
WHAT HAPPENED?
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
November 10, 2025 at 9:43 PM
WHAT HAPPENED?
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
In the multistate SNAP case, Judge Talwani will:
- keep USDA's 11/8 order that states "undo" full payments or face penalties stayed for now
- issue a TRO mirroring the RI case TRO to protect states directly
- likely address an error states say USDA made in its partial payment tables
Reposted by Chris Geidner
BREAKING: Judge Talwani will be issuing a second order — aside from the Rhode Island TRO — to "protect against the government's position" that the states suing over SNAP benefits are not "parties" to the R.I. litigation. It will be stayed to run concurrently w/ the R.I. order's current admin stay.
November 10, 2025 at 9:38 PM
BREAKING: Judge Talwani will be issuing a second order — aside from the Rhode Island TRO — to "protect against the government's position" that the states suing over SNAP benefits are not "parties" to the R.I. litigation. It will be stayed to run concurrently w/ the R.I. order's current admin stay.
BREAKING: Judge Talwani will be issuing a second order — aside from the Rhode Island TRO — to "protect against the government's position" that the states suing over SNAP benefits are not "parties" to the R.I. litigation. It will be stayed to run concurrently w/ the R.I. order's current admin stay.
November 10, 2025 at 9:38 PM
BREAKING: Judge Talwani will be issuing a second order — aside from the Rhode Island TRO — to "protect against the government's position" that the states suing over SNAP benefits are not "parties" to the R.I. litigation. It will be stayed to run concurrently w/ the R.I. order's current admin stay.
A side-fight over the table USDA gave for partial payments.
Becker says it's just a difference of regulatory interpretation.
Talwani responds: "I couldn't find any ambiguity in it."
Becker says it's just a difference of regulatory interpretation.
Talwani responds: "I couldn't find any ambiguity in it."
November 10, 2025 at 9:36 PM
A side-fight over the table USDA gave for partial payments.
Becker says it's just a difference of regulatory interpretation.
Talwani responds: "I couldn't find any ambiguity in it."
Becker says it's just a difference of regulatory interpretation.
Talwani responds: "I couldn't find any ambiguity in it."
Becker says "it's really up to Congress."
Talwani: It's up to Congress because USDA chose not to use the Section 32 funds. "It's hard to see how it's not just being used as a leverage point."
"People are hungry right now."
Even though a deal is near, she says, you aren't willing to reconsider.
Talwani: It's up to Congress because USDA chose not to use the Section 32 funds. "It's hard to see how it's not just being used as a leverage point."
"People are hungry right now."
Even though a deal is near, she says, you aren't willing to reconsider.
November 10, 2025 at 9:29 PM
Becker says "it's really up to Congress."
Talwani: It's up to Congress because USDA chose not to use the Section 32 funds. "It's hard to see how it's not just being used as a leverage point."
"People are hungry right now."
Even though a deal is near, she says, you aren't willing to reconsider.
Talwani: It's up to Congress because USDA chose not to use the Section 32 funds. "It's hard to see how it's not just being used as a leverage point."
"People are hungry right now."
Even though a deal is near, she says, you aren't willing to reconsider.
Thread continues here —>
DOJ really upset the federal judge in Massachusetts (hearing the multistate SNAP case) with its Sunday filing at the First Circuit in the other SNAP case —>
Talwani: "In an abundance of caution, is there any reason this court should not issue an order parallel to the R.I. one" to ensure the states have the same protection?
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
November 10, 2025 at 9:26 PM
Thread continues here —>
… so much so that she is considering issuing her own order against the Trump administration.
November 10, 2025 at 9:25 PM
… so much so that she is considering issuing her own order against the Trump administration.
Here is that filing — storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us... — which I covered on Sunday: www.lawdork.com/p/doj-says-f...
November 10, 2025 at 9:19 PM
Here is that filing — storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us... — which I covered on Sunday: www.lawdork.com/p/doj-says-f...
Talwani: "In an abundance of caution, is there any reason this court should not issue an order parallel to the R.I. one" to ensure the states have the same protection?
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
November 10, 2025 at 9:17 PM
Talwani: "In an abundance of caution, is there any reason this court should not issue an order parallel to the R.I. one" to ensure the states have the same protection?
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
"I'm concerned," she reiterates, about the First Circuit filing. "This is a sentence in the filing to the First Circuit."
Reposted by Chris Geidner
Talwani accuses the Trump administration of playing "vindictive games with the states."
November 10, 2025 at 9:12 PM
Talwani accuses the Trump administration of playing "vindictive games with the states."
Talwani accuses the Trump administration of playing "vindictive games with the states."
November 10, 2025 at 9:12 PM
Talwani accuses the Trump administration of playing "vindictive games with the states."
Reposted by Chris Geidner
BREAKING: Judge will keep USDA's Saturday order on hold that directed states to "undo" full SNAP payments.
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
November 10, 2025 at 9:11 PM
BREAKING: Judge will keep USDA's Saturday order on hold that directed states to "undo" full SNAP payments.
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
BREAKING: Judge will keep USDA's Saturday order on hold that directed states to "undo" full SNAP payments.
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
November 10, 2025 at 9:11 PM
BREAKING: Judge will keep USDA's Saturday order on hold that directed states to "undo" full SNAP payments.
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
Talwani: "I think there is no reason for me not to keep in place my stay of the order directing the agencies to take steps to return the funds that were issued."
"You're saying they needed to behave as if the stay had been obtained."
Becker says they had til 11:59p Friday. "The states chose to jump the gun."
Becker says they had til 11:59p Friday. "The states chose to jump the gun."
November 10, 2025 at 9:09 PM
"You're saying they needed to behave as if the stay had been obtained."
Becker says they had til 11:59p Friday. "The states chose to jump the gun."
Becker says they had til 11:59p Friday. "The states chose to jump the gun."
Talwani: "At the point it wasn't stayed, it seems to me the states acted reasonably."
Then, she says, USDA issued a "blustering order" on Saturday night. (The "undo" memo.)
"[W]e're trying to get benefits to people who need food."
Then, she says, USDA issued a "blustering order" on Saturday night. (The "undo" memo.)
"[W]e're trying to get benefits to people who need food."
November 10, 2025 at 9:05 PM
Talwani: "At the point it wasn't stayed, it seems to me the states acted reasonably."
Then, she says, USDA issued a "blustering order" on Saturday night. (The "undo" memo.)
"[W]e're trying to get benefits to people who need food."
Then, she says, USDA issued a "blustering order" on Saturday night. (The "undo" memo.)
"[W]e're trying to get benefits to people who need food."
Talwani is unhappy that DOJ asked them to hold off on the Mass case because of the RI case, then told the First Circuit that states were going ahead with full payments despite not being parties to the RI litigation.
November 10, 2025 at 9:03 PM
Talwani is unhappy that DOJ asked them to hold off on the Mass case because of the RI case, then told the First Circuit that states were going ahead with full payments despite not being parties to the RI litigation.
Becker pushes back, claiming, "Some states jumped the gun."
Talwani: "These are very hot times right now. ... People are ... trying to figure out how to move forward. When states rely on the R.I. judge's decision is 'brazen'?"
Talwani: "These are very hot times right now. ... People are ... trying to figure out how to move forward. When states rely on the R.I. judge's decision is 'brazen'?"
November 10, 2025 at 9:01 PM
Becker pushes back, claiming, "Some states jumped the gun."
Talwani: "These are very hot times right now. ... People are ... trying to figure out how to move forward. When states rely on the R.I. judge's decision is 'brazen'?"
Talwani: "These are very hot times right now. ... People are ... trying to figure out how to move forward. When states rely on the R.I. judge's decision is 'brazen'?"
More: Then, 11/8 night email "threatened the states," concluded it was "unauthorized," and order the states to "undo" payments.
"Along with doing that, you advised the First Circuit that their were these rogue things happening. ... But what you have right now is confusion of the gov't own making."
"Along with doing that, you advised the First Circuit that their were these rogue things happening. ... But what you have right now is confusion of the gov't own making."
November 10, 2025 at 8:58 PM
More: Then, 11/8 night email "threatened the states," concluded it was "unauthorized," and order the states to "undo" payments.
"Along with doing that, you advised the First Circuit that their were these rogue things happening. ... But what you have right now is confusion of the gov't own making."
"Along with doing that, you advised the First Circuit that their were these rogue things happening. ... But what you have right now is confusion of the gov't own making."
Talwani, on taking a backseat to the Rhode Island case: "I have been holding back and not trying to complicate your life."
But, of the 11/7 letter, she says: "It may have some ambiguity to it, but it doesn't say not to do anything because we are appealing it."
But, of the 11/7 letter, she says: "It may have some ambiguity to it, but it doesn't say not to do anything because we are appealing it."
November 10, 2025 at 8:56 PM
Talwani, on taking a backseat to the Rhode Island case: "I have been holding back and not trying to complicate your life."
But, of the 11/7 letter, she says: "It may have some ambiguity to it, but it doesn't say not to do anything because we are appealing it."
But, of the 11/7 letter, she says: "It may have some ambiguity to it, but it doesn't say not to do anything because we are appealing it."