Denýs Čumák
@choomaque.bsky.social
>Why is the USSR the country you're focused on
because my point is that economic model with 100% planned economy with 100% state ownership is faulty and inevitably leads to impoverishment for population or a disaster to the country
partial state ownership is totally okay
because my point is that economic model with 100% planned economy with 100% state ownership is faulty and inevitably leads to impoverishment for population or a disaster to the country
partial state ownership is totally okay
December 6, 2025 at 12:09 PM
>Why is the USSR the country you're focused on
because my point is that economic model with 100% planned economy with 100% state ownership is faulty and inevitably leads to impoverishment for population or a disaster to the country
partial state ownership is totally okay
because my point is that economic model with 100% planned economy with 100% state ownership is faulty and inevitably leads to impoverishment for population or a disaster to the country
partial state ownership is totally okay
Under Deng China abandoned the economic model of planning for the consumer demand and complete state ownership of all the production, which also made possible for foreign companies to enter China.
December 6, 2025 at 11:46 AM
Under Deng China abandoned the economic model of planning for the consumer demand and complete state ownership of all the production, which also made possible for foreign companies to enter China.
>Plans for economic reforms were developed back in 1983-1984 on the instructions of the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov[1].
why were these plans in the works 4 years prior to perestroika was declared in the first place, if gosplan just worked?
why were these plans in the works 4 years prior to perestroika was declared in the first place, if gosplan just worked?
December 6, 2025 at 11:44 AM
>Plans for economic reforms were developed back in 1983-1984 on the instructions of the General Secretary of the CPSU Central Committee, Yuri Vladimirovich Andropov[1].
why were these plans in the works 4 years prior to perestroika was declared in the first place, if gosplan just worked?
why were these plans in the works 4 years prior to perestroika was declared in the first place, if gosplan just worked?
>perestroika is so widely considered
by whom?
by whom?
December 6, 2025 at 11:40 AM
>perestroika is so widely considered
by whom?
by whom?
Gorbachev was trying to be the soviet Deng Xiaoping, but his plan was too little too late.
December 6, 2025 at 11:39 AM
Gorbachev was trying to be the soviet Deng Xiaoping, but his plan was too little too late.
>Pointing at Perestroika as the cause for the fall of the Soviet Union isn't bold
It's bold, because the economic problems in SU, namely widespread deficits, were apparent in the 70s. More than a decade prior to perestroika.
It's bold, because the economic problems in SU, namely widespread deficits, were apparent in the 70s. More than a decade prior to perestroika.
December 6, 2025 at 11:36 AM
>Pointing at Perestroika as the cause for the fall of the Soviet Union isn't bold
It's bold, because the economic problems in SU, namely widespread deficits, were apparent in the 70s. More than a decade prior to perestroika.
It's bold, because the economic problems in SU, namely widespread deficits, were apparent in the 70s. More than a decade prior to perestroika.
>its enemies were actively undermined by those same countries
The process of undermining the other side wasn't monodirectional
The process of undermining the other side wasn't monodirectional
December 6, 2025 at 11:33 AM
>its enemies were actively undermined by those same countries
The process of undermining the other side wasn't monodirectional
The process of undermining the other side wasn't monodirectional
Bold claim. How did the rivals of the Soviet bloc fared so well all this time then, if pivoting from plan is what kills countries?
December 6, 2025 at 11:31 AM
Bold claim. How did the rivals of the Soviet bloc fared so well all this time then, if pivoting from plan is what kills countries?
Deng Xiaoping wasn't, and now China is a strong contender to become next global superpower and US has no such leverage as it had with soviets.
December 6, 2025 at 11:28 AM
Deng Xiaoping wasn't, and now China is a strong contender to become next global superpower and US has no such leverage as it had with soviets.
It wouldn't if USSR allowed private property and running a business to their people. USSR was relied on a faulty economic model and their elite was too stubborn to pivot or at least make some amendments.
December 6, 2025 at 11:27 AM
It wouldn't if USSR allowed private property and running a business to their people. USSR was relied on a faulty economic model and their elite was too stubborn to pivot or at least make some amendments.
The empire super wealthy of oil, gas, gold, silver, platinum and self-sufficient in food production and wealthy in brain capital was collapsed in 1991 because of what, in your opinion?
December 6, 2025 at 11:25 AM
The empire super wealthy of oil, gas, gold, silver, platinum and self-sufficient in food production and wealthy in brain capital was collapsed in 1991 because of what, in your opinion?
Every market economy is wealthy onky because of some kind of Marshall plan, and every planned economy is poor only because of constant economic attacks. If that is what you are saying, that is conspiratorial.
December 6, 2025 at 11:21 AM
Every market economy is wealthy onky because of some kind of Marshall plan, and every planned economy is poor only because of constant economic attacks. If that is what you are saying, that is conspiratorial.
Soviet Union became a superpower not because of being socialist with planned economy, but because how many nations it has occupied during the WW2
December 6, 2025 at 11:13 AM
Soviet Union became a superpower not because of being socialist with planned economy, but because how many nations it has occupied during the WW2
>Controlling a huge swath of territory
with population and economic output, Canada controls permafrost forests with 0 people living in it
Superpower is a post WW2 phenomenon, and RE was as close as it could get to that state
with population and economic output, Canada controls permafrost forests with 0 people living in it
Superpower is a post WW2 phenomenon, and RE was as close as it could get to that state
December 6, 2025 at 11:08 AM
>Controlling a huge swath of territory
with population and economic output, Canada controls permafrost forests with 0 people living in it
Superpower is a post WW2 phenomenon, and RE was as close as it could get to that state
with population and economic output, Canada controls permafrost forests with 0 people living in it
Superpower is a post WW2 phenomenon, and RE was as close as it could get to that state
>How can we evaluate where capitalist countries would be without slavery?
Look at post ww2 west Germany
Look at post ww2 west Germany
December 6, 2025 at 11:04 AM
>How can we evaluate where capitalist countries would be without slavery?
Look at post ww2 west Germany
Look at post ww2 west Germany
Both are allowing private property and running a business aka exploit workers
December 6, 2025 at 11:00 AM
Both are allowing private property and running a business aka exploit workers
>Yes. Because capitalism is built upon exploitation of labor.
In USSR workers were encouraged to "overcomplete the plan" and not been compensated for that
In USSR workers were encouraged to "overcomplete the plan" and not been compensated for that
December 6, 2025 at 10:38 AM
>Yes. Because capitalism is built upon exploitation of labor.
In USSR workers were encouraged to "overcomplete the plan" and not been compensated for that
In USSR workers were encouraged to "overcomplete the plan" and not been compensated for that
Do you get into US prison for an opinion?
December 6, 2025 at 10:37 AM
Do you get into US prison for an opinion?
If you live in a well functioning economy, you definitely not need to go forage.
December 6, 2025 at 10:35 AM
If you live in a well functioning economy, you definitely not need to go forage.
Totally was.
Tzarist Russian empire had even bigger territory. But it also had competition in form of British Empire, French Empire, Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary. After the WW2 ended all of these empires were no more, and the west was too weak to throw the soviets out of central Europe.
Tzarist Russian empire had even bigger territory. But it also had competition in form of British Empire, French Empire, Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary. After the WW2 ended all of these empires were no more, and the west was too weak to throw the soviets out of central Europe.
December 6, 2025 at 10:33 AM
Totally was.
Tzarist Russian empire had even bigger territory. But it also had competition in form of British Empire, French Empire, Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary. After the WW2 ended all of these empires were no more, and the west was too weak to throw the soviets out of central Europe.
Tzarist Russian empire had even bigger territory. But it also had competition in form of British Empire, French Empire, Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungary. After the WW2 ended all of these empires were no more, and the west was too weak to throw the soviets out of central Europe.
>Cuba and DPRK are doing okay
Literal semistarving prisons larping as countries are "doing okay".
Noted.
Literal semistarving prisons larping as countries are "doing okay".
Noted.
December 6, 2025 at 10:29 AM
>Cuba and DPRK are doing okay
Literal semistarving prisons larping as countries are "doing okay".
Noted.
Literal semistarving prisons larping as countries are "doing okay".
Noted.
You are being conspiratorial
December 6, 2025 at 10:27 AM
You are being conspiratorial
>brutal colonialist war
Are Japan, South Korea and Taiwan - colonies from which US extorted wealth for decades?
Are Japan, South Korea and Taiwan - colonies from which US extorted wealth for decades?
December 6, 2025 at 10:25 AM
>brutal colonialist war
Are Japan, South Korea and Taiwan - colonies from which US extorted wealth for decades?
Are Japan, South Korea and Taiwan - colonies from which US extorted wealth for decades?
Far from deficits, empty store shelves and mass exodus of the population to live as imigrants abroad
December 6, 2025 at 10:23 AM
Far from deficits, empty store shelves and mass exodus of the population to live as imigrants abroad
>they were constantly underminded by foriegn powers
they were constantly tried to undermine these foreign powers as well, trying to disrupt them, even funding radical left terrorist organizations
they were constantly tried to undermine these foreign powers as well, trying to disrupt them, even funding radical left terrorist organizations
December 6, 2025 at 10:21 AM
>they were constantly underminded by foriegn powers
they were constantly tried to undermine these foreign powers as well, trying to disrupt them, even funding radical left terrorist organizations
they were constantly tried to undermine these foreign powers as well, trying to disrupt them, even funding radical left terrorist organizations