Having said all that there's this horrible void between ARM low end and ARM high end and I don't get why no one wants to fill that space with reasonably performant reasonably priced product. Riscv has an opportunity here.

IMO RK3588 is entirely, or almost entirely, supported by newer Linux kernels. Armbian builds are quite good. Seems to sit nicely in the efficiency to grunt sweet spot IMO. Relative to x86 at least even if not the most effecienct ARM proc. Orange Pi 5 Plus is a heck of a bargain.

Turns out yes, I was looking at a different one. www.newegg.com/asrock-rack-...

Seems that rubicon was like intel 4th or 5th gen. I'd say 1st gen ryzen on the AMD side. I just upgraded an AIO to the i7 4th gen for $20, installed Linux and it's now rehomed with someone using it to do resumes, watch youtube, and browse the web in a modern web browser.

Hasn't that been a thing for a while? Or is this a different chip? I've been kicking around the idea of getting one but still a touch too pricey.

If I put it on my Christmas list will you be my santa clause with your big youtube money? /S 😆

I believe that's X. I'm pretty sure you just pay them and get the check.

Adoring computers, a tool, is silly? Do you say the same of artisans who adore their tools?

I have reviewed the pinned post. I think we're on the same page by in large. However I take umbrage with your statement that people who like llms, a tool, or more rightly content, do not have a concern for truth. I was pointing out the absurdity of your statement using human content as an example.

So does the same apply because I have to interact with humans, or the content they create, who have no concern for the truth? Because I do have a concern for truth but with humans and LLMs I still have to use my better judgement with the information I'm given. Both are still useful in some capacity

Have you considered @swappa.com ?

I would note again, so far in my testing, any feature I disable has stayed disabled through updates and you can easily disable all the features I've seen or considered disabling. 🤷

If you can't separate the people from the things they make good luck doing much of anything in the modern world. So far as I can tell most or all of the things there have changed or are simply true of virtually all other software/companies. Pick your poison I guess.

Already is. It takes me nearly 2 hours to get a windows machine in a usable state. I can install Fedora KDE in about 20 minutes start to finish including every app I regularly use. The installer is one screen with a few buttons to some sub menus and then a field for username/password etc. So easy!

The issue is the other linux users are busy doing their thing. Not trolling the internet and replying to linux help posts.

So that small amount of vocal minority shouldn't be seen as "linux users" in general. 90% of Linux users are normal people like anyone else. Just a silent majority.

I'll be honest I switched to Brave. I don't care for some of the folks that work on it but in all manner of different testing they do seem to be doing right by privacy.

They do have an AI side bar but it, so far in my last few months of testing, stays off when you shut it off even though updates.

It used to be tough but in the last few years the GUI has got very good. I'll grant you it's still learning how to use a new platform which can be tough. But once you do it becomes easy.

I'd note Chrome OS and Android are both Linux based.

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