It is actually better. The Jenkins community has invested in devtools and DevX for years. It addressed many common problems like untangling classloading mess or plugin dependencies, as @liutikas.net wrote recently.

Java frameworks have very similar challenges, and should learn from each other

You should try Jenkins plugin development 😘

It is the best possible focus time for catching up on your email drafts and reading list

I think my one will be based on Quarkus too, after all. I depend on Gradle less now, and I definitely prefer Quarkus Dev Services to the Spring implementation 😀 m.devoxx.com/events/dvbe2...