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Special thanks to @thomastalhelm.bsky.social for many thoughtful feedback and conversations. Also thanks to suggestions from @nicholascoles.bsky.social , Xueguang Zhou, Hazel Markus, and members of Culture Lab :)
Special thanks to @thomastalhelm.bsky.social for many thoughtful feedback and conversations. Also thanks to suggestions from @nicholascoles.bsky.social , Xueguang Zhou, Hazel Markus, and members of Culture Lab :)
So, rice theory is a cool idea. But we’re not so sure these two farms give us a clean causal test.
Thanks for reading! And now… I’m craving rice snacks. Strongly recommend these, 10/10 🍘
(It says Milk but it's 56% rice)
So, rice theory is a cool idea. But we’re not so sure these two farms give us a clean causal test.
Thanks for reading! And now… I’m craving rice snacks. Strongly recommend these, 10/10 🍘
(It says Milk but it's 56% rice)
And the two farms weren’t identical socially, either. Lianhu (rice) had stronger military roots. You can even glimpse their cultural difference in how they kept records. Lianhu documented every single year; Qukou only every five. At least in the farm chronicles.
And the two farms weren’t identical socially, either. Lianhu (rice) had stronger military roots. You can even glimpse their cultural difference in how they kept records. Lianhu documented every single year; Qukou only every five. At least in the farm chronicles.
What I found was surprising: both farms actually grew both rice and wheat. Sometimes in similar proportions.
By the 1970s (when most participants were born), Lianhu, the “rice” farm, was mostly growing dryland crops.
(Yes I did enter all the datapoints from the book and ggplot it)
What I found was surprising: both farms actually grew both rice and wheat. Sometimes in similar proportions.
By the 1970s (when most participants were born), Lianhu, the “rice” farm, was mostly growing dryland crops.
(Yes I did enter all the datapoints from the book and ggplot it)
Beyond stats, there’s also history. I got curious about the farms themselves and hunted down the primary sources: the farm chronicles.
Thanks to interlibrary loan, Harvard mailed me two actual physical copies across the country (!). TWICE (😅sorry I'm slow and they won't extend my loan).
Beyond stats, there’s also history. I got curious about the farms themselves and hunted down the primary sources: the farm chronicles.
Thanks to interlibrary loan, Harvard mailed me two actual physical copies across the country (!). TWICE (😅sorry I'm slow and they won't extend my loan).
We found only one of the three psychological measures (Self-Inflation) was robust, showing consistent results across all specifications. The others were sensitive to the specification of the model.
We found only one of the three psychological measures (Self-Inflation) was robust, showing consistent results across all specifications. The others were sensitive to the specification of the model.
Consistent with rice theory, the rice farmers turned out to be more “collectivistic” than the wheat farmers.
But we took a closer look. Since the analyses weren’t preregistered, we decided to test robustness using a multiverse analysis: rerunning all possible versions of their models.
Consistent with rice theory, the rice farmers turned out to be more “collectivistic” than the wheat farmers.
But we took a closer look. Since the analyses weren’t preregistered, we decided to test robustness using a multiverse analysis: rerunning all possible versions of their models.
In Talhelm & Dong (2024), they picked a fascinating case: two state farms in China, one designated for rice, the other for wheat. Young people from the cities were basically randomly assigned to these farms. So voilà, quasi-random rice vs. wheat farming!
In Talhelm & Dong (2024), they picked a fascinating case: two state farms in China, one designated for rice, the other for wheat. Young people from the cities were basically randomly assigned to these farms. So voilà, quasi-random rice vs. wheat farming!
We’ll be at CogSci 2025 presenting this work!
Come find us in San Francisco. Happy to chat about all things looking time paradigms :)
We’ll be at CogSci 2025 presenting this work!
Come find us in San Francisco. Happy to chat about all things looking time paradigms :)