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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 4d

Are you suggesting, wherever possible, isolated knowledge should be intentionally tethered to fundamental explanatory models to help knowledge to persist?

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

I do not see a distinction between cybernetic information & learning. Both are a change that occurs from an interaction that provides corrective feedback.
A subject is the collective knowledge of all the someone’s & we interact with that collective body of knowledge & we get corrective feedback.

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

So yes I would agree the students are learning the teacher. But I would also agree they are learning themselves, and they are learning the subject. So I would not agree with the statement they are learning the teacher not the subject. /6

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

Across both forms, the subject itself stands as the constant reference point — the external body of reality that both teacher and student check their understanding against.
It is the stable source of feedback within which all adaptive learning takes place. /5

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

In such interactions, both sides are learning:
• the teacher learns how to teach the subject more effectively through the feedback the students provide,
• the students learn the subject through the guidance of the teacher. /4

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

When learning through a teacher, the student is also learning themselves in the context of the subject — but the focus within that subject has been chosen by the teacher.
The teacher selects what to emphasise based on what they judge to be most meaningful or useful for the student at that moment./3

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

In this sense, when learning from text, the student is not directly learning the subject — they are learning themselves as they engage with the subject. The process becomes one of self-adaptation through interpretation but ultimately with feedback on success from the subject. /2

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 14d

In all learning situations, students actions are in response to a communication. When that communication is via a teacher it is dynamic and 2 way adaptive. Whereas when the communication is via text it is fixed and it is the student that adapts to the inferred meaning of the text. /1

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Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 15d

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Do you think it is worth extending the proposition to make the teacher a dynamic component within the model?

At the mo, your proposition positions the teacher as an unchanging object in the interaction.

How would you say the techer is changed from the interaction?

What is the teacher learning?

Mr Lee Bates @mrbates.bsky.social · 15d

A nice reframing.
But I would say students are informed by what they interact with. That is not always the teacher. Some feedback comes from activities that are independent of the teacher.

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