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Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 3h

Well yes the assumptions were incredibly optimistic about the fraction of EV mode usage certainly. Especially given the limitations of recent models. I am still bullish on PHEVs utility. But I'm also from a place where EVs cannot be used reliably due to minimal charging networks.

Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 3h

I even asked MHAs about it. None were willing to provide me estimates in 2024 dollars, and none could point me to the exact calculations used to get these nominal figures. Without a frank and transparent discussion of these types of things it was pretty irresponsible to move ahead with the MOU...

Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 3h

I just hope that the presentation is open and transparent unlike the current MOU. I've been blown away that there hasn't been more commentary on the failure of Gov to provide numbers in 2024 dollars.

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Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 6h

Can you point me to a study that demonstrates this effect using a stratification based on a comparison of extended range PHEVs (>70 km) versus low range PHEVs (<40 km)?

Remember, a lot of models of PHEV (kia/hyundai etc) can't run a heater without the engine on so models matter too...

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Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 7h

As someone who was in the market for a PHEV for a couple years (before buying an EV). There's quite a difference between PHEV ranges of new vehicles in 2020-2023 and those on the market today. Around here quite a number of PHEV models were only getting 30 km electric range in winter 3 years ago.

Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 7h

Yes. It's stating that for low range PHEVs, they spend the majority of their time using gas. Which is not surprising. The way the title is worded makes it seem that PHEVs themselves are producing more emissions than promised versus driving habits being the caused. There's a huge distinction there.

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Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 8h

Meanwhile, it's being used to say plug-in hybrids are bad for emissions. I'm sorry but if you can't afford an EV, have a sub-50 km commute or have to have more range than EVs can offer then plug-in hybrids (and especially extended range ones) are a great option.

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Robert Way @labradorice.bsky.social · 8h

This story (which is being shared around in many forms) is misleadingly titled. The story basically says if you drive your plug-in hybrid beyond its electric-only range it's not a big emissions improvement.

Duh! Older plug-in hybrids have limited electric-only range so there should be no surprise.

Clean Energy Wire | CLEW @cleanenergywire.bsky.social · 8h

Plug-in hybrids pollute almost as much as petrol cars, report finds

Analysis of 800,000 European cars found real-world pollution from plug-in hybrids nearly five times greater than lab tests

Plug-in hybrids pollute almost as much as petrol cars, report finds

Analysis of 800,000 European cars found real-world pollution from plug-in hybrids nearly five times greater than lab tests

www.theguardian.com

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