Jeremy Pober
@jpober.bsky.social
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Philosophy Research Fellow at ULisboa. American, recently naturalized German, based in Lisbon. Philosophy of mind and psychology/neuroscience, metaphysics, and moral psychology Dogs, politics history, 90s Simpsons, SNL, some SF/F; 50% sh**posts.
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No the point is that they are fascist and they are trash because they are fascist. Sorry if this is difficult.
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I don't judge people for their weight; I judge them for their ideas about genetic superiority and the cognitive dissonance it takes to maintain those ideas
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I try not to hate on appearances but these mfers really think they're the übermenschen
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Didn't we meet in Vienna, at the ECAP? Looking forward to seeing you again in any case (or meeting you if I'm wrong, which is entirely possible).

Yes I'd get something if you have time here (though the main stores are all selling fall clothes in preparation for our 15 degree "winter")
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Basically Miller is shadow domestic president and Witkoff (or maybe Kushner again?) is shadow foreign policy president, which isn't great but is significantly less bad
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It's pretty humid, too 😬
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It was Earth-X in the Arrowverse. They did a whole 4 part crossover special on it just so the whole cast of every show could punch nazis
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Took me a full 30 seconds to realize this wasn't game of thrones
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Lol even he knows it
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Yeah there's some sort of Ian Hacking-like looping effect between what Reinhart calls the moral infrastructure and social practices like shaming. The way to recalibrate the moral infrastructure to be conducive to a healthy society is (in part) to convince people they don't want to be like fascists
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I haven't in my offline life, but I'm 1 not religious/don't attend synagogue and 2 living in Europe (Lisbon for the past year). Not sure whether either of those are relevant or whether its just small sample size
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Gonna go out on a limb and say this will not turn out to be a strategic masterstroke on their part
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ICE just arrested a singing giraffe in Portland.
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Same difference. He just doesn't have the kind of charisma that inspires people to make death threats on his behalf. Too whiny and petulant
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I mean my overall "Trump as Sulla" take isn't all that much more optimistic than this one, but I don't think Vance gets to be dictator. He just can't command the stochastic terror that keeps Republicans in congress cowed.
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Because Trump, unlike Hindenburg, made it so only subservient weaklings could make it in his inner circle
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Yeah but when Trump kicks it and JD Vance tries to consolidate maga he'll get the hard core but lose all the low info "Trump is good at business" voters to Javanka or whoever and it'll be some great schaudenfreude
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Every single one of them has an origin story involving being rejected by a girl in junior high who either was a minority or went on to date someone who is a minority, and they decided to blame multiculturalism and/or the Jews rather than moving on with their lives.
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I haven't started working on that question yet; for now I'm just trying to convince people that there's not a chance in hell the things we interact with are conscious/persons while at the same time not ruling out that distant-future-tech could achieve consciousness/personhood.
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other candidates (preferences/desires that motivate behavior, feeling, reflective deliberation, executive function, a unified stream of experience, etc) are all lacking in LLM's: all they have is reinforcement learning.
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I think it's more likely to be a low-level functional property that's implementable in only a narrow range of substrates, but that's not the same as it being tied directly to the substrate (emergence or no).

That's what the "meat-based" people like Ned Block and Anil Seth really argue IMO
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For examples of supplemental arguments see, e.g., Chalmers's chip replacement/faded qualia argument, or, more recently (apologies for the self-plug): faculty.ucr.edu/~eschwitz/Sc...
The Copernican Argument for Alien Consciousness; The Mimicry Argument Against Robot Consciousness, by Eric Schwitzgebel and Jeremy Pober
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Chatgpt can probably perform calculations faster than Data could, but however he selected answers was much better at screening out "hallucinations". Not to mention he had his own set of preferences (which is what I meant by desires and I think a key feature of agency independent of consciousness)
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It's true that you need a supplemental argument to go from behavioral or cognitive complexity to having phenomenal experience, but there are a bunch of those. I'd argue that the burden is on the person assuming non-consciousness to at least explain what is special about the organ in our crania
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Like if we could build a Data, I'd be pretty ok granting him moral status. The thing is that the things we build and call "AI" are so far from Data that it's a nonissue.