For anyone who missed it on Facebook, the guest, Dave Meslin, has indicated that the final lines in the episode misrepresent what he sent in an email, even after an initial correction. You can read Dave's words (as well as Jesse's response) here: www.facebook.com/595706967/po...

As someone whose family left their Synagogue of the past decade over that organization's continued support for Israel and genocide, they're not *entirely* wrong.

Thankfully, we're starting to see an explosion of implicitly and explicitly anti-zionest congregations popping up in Toronto as a result.

I don't disagree with the sentiment, however Dylann Roof shot up a predominantly Black church, not a synagogue.

You do realize your second example there is from a Canadian account, and that "Liberal" in this context refers to the Liberal Party of Canada (currently in power)? A party that, under its new leader, has moved right of center (instead of just left of center where it historically sat)?

Sorry, you're saying PP is worse than the federal party leader who advocated for Canada becoming a white ethnostate (Bernier)?

And again, PP being worse (or even the 'worst') does not make Carney 'good' (they can both be bad).

PP being bad does not make Carney good; it's not a zero sum game. Maxime Bernier is more openly racist than Poilievre, does that mean PP is a good option that we should all support, because there exists a worse option? Of course not.

This feels like a wild stance for anyone non-indigenous (especially white people) living in North America to take.

What lie? One of the main reasons genocide is covered under its own convention is that it is *never* justified. There are no 'circumstances' that justify or excuse it.

I literally quoted from the genocide convention in the post you're responding to. If you're not going to take a few minutes to read it so you know what you're talking about, or seems clear you have no interest in the truth.

That said, it shouldn't be surprising that you're dismissing evidence and pushing propaganda considering you've also suggested Palestinians 'deserve' genocide: bsky.app/profile/agij...

No group deserves genocide.

It is Israel's actions designed to "destroy, in whole or in part," the Palestinians in Gaza that constitute genocide, as has been identified by numerous independent and humanitarian groups, including those *based in Israel*

Other urban warfare like the fighting in Srebrenica (a genocide)?

You are just repeating Israeli talking points with no actual evidence, opposed to the contradictory reporting, including video and photo evidence, from many independent sources.

As for Hamas, I don't know why they won't surrender (though I can imagine several possible reasons). However, again, the actions of Hamas have *nothing* to do with whether or not Israel has committed the crime of genocide.

There is in fact lots of evidence; 3rd party sourced or corroborated reports of mass civilian deaths and civilians being targeted, widespread famine, large scale destruction of civilian infrastructure, as well as direct statements from senior Israeli officials on their intent.

Many genocides take place during a war (Srebrenica Genocide during the Bosnian War, the Holocaust during WWII).

Again, I would suggest you read the a Genocide Convention so you're better informed. It's not long, probably wouldn't take more than 5 minutes.

Additionally, his main argument, that it's not genocide because Israel _could_ have killed even more is nonsensical. Germany likely _could_ have killed more Jews during WW2 if they abandoned the war and put all efforts towards the Holocaust; that doesn't mean the Holocaust wasn't a genocide.

Unfortunately, an NYT columnist is not a definitive voice on international law, especially one who's a well documented racist.

Not sure what you mean be "there had to be an actual genocide first [for there to be a genocide];" that's a tautology that sidesteps the actual issue.

Spoken as someone who has apparently never read the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide (legal definition of genocide).