lol exactly this.

I want a create a site

howtousesvelteeffect . com and it will just return a "don't"

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Didn't quite work, we tried that but had some random bugs that kept popping up so it'll be a bit more involved.

so we can start re-architecting and using the new features for new feature buildouts.

Reality is we can't spend months on the upgrade needs to be done in phases.

Champ

Lol I wish

This is my future right here 🥲

Hope it's over soon for you ❤️

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$effect = side‑effects only

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I'm sorry man, this sucks.

We're all just cogs and no one could ever convince me otherwise at this point.

Interestingly was looking into something exactly like this implementation and was directed to this custom rune called resource

runed.dev/docs/utiliti...

Maybe focusing or scrollintoView could be handled by onMount (in svelte specifically) but the others are definitely a good use case for effect.

My point was more just mundane state changes that can get more complex don't need effects, just more complex derived functions.

oh good point, I haven't checked the runed docs in forever.

watch is actually awesome, even less reason to use effect!